Hi Ode and Marshall,

The medics use a conductive electrode gel with silver/silverchloride . This is 
used for 
longterm connection called resting electrodes.  I used them a lot for the Bob 
Beck type units 
because they helped to prevent the skin burning which I thought due to a better 
skin 
connection. The burns always seemed to be at point contacts. 

Grist ?

Tony
 

On 27 Dec 2012 at 11:40, Marshall wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>OT - zapper burns

> I believe this is a correct analysis.  It might be worth while figuring
> out something that can be added to the water that will increase
> conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals.  Any salt, acid or
> alkaline will work.  I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) or
> citric acid.  I believe that hydrogen will be released at one electrode
> and CO2 at the other.  The CO2 is probably not a problem, it will make
> carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most metals making
> a metal hydride.  So the choice of electrode material will be important.
> 
> I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit.  They appear to have a carbon
> conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it.  Carbon would be a
> good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
> > The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the
> > skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them
> > as fast as they are being made. Those are "chemical" burns. 5 ways to
> > prevent..can all be used at once or any in part.
> >
> > Reduce voltage [potentiometer]
> > Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the
> > same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad
> > area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume
> > of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch
> > polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's
> > opposite.
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split
> > into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE
> > ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold
> > cleaner...with a very short shelf life.
> >
> > The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant.
> > The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ]
> >
> > Then, there is MMS [ "Miracle Mineral Supplement"...which looks like
> > everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals 
> > ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and 
> > germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel
> > really ill. [Careful there]
> >
> > THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that
> > can be made using junk around the house...used for "blood
> > electrification".
> >
> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/
> >
> > BUT
> >
> > Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a
> > metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions
> > ....."Electro-chemistry"
> >
> > SO
> >
> > The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much
> > that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!!
> >
> > OK
> >
> > So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a
> > bucket of salt water]
> >
> > If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get
> > salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that
> > potential be used for?
> >
> > 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo
> > using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a
> > couple of sponges soaked with salt water] ....too much? [burning and
> > itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate]
> >
> > 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in
> > vivo ....with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend......
> >
> > Both made from existing salt, going back to salt.
> >
> > That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location 
> > control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination.
> >
> >
> > At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I
> >> ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.  I'm
> >> used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this
> >> zapper does not.  I was running 15 Hz.
> >>
> >> Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again.  It
> >> happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to
> >> heal.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >> PT
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