Hi Mike, I had a few "goes" at Wayne about his method of using the phone line as source for a CS device. He just "grinned" and told me he had survived 600v and basically to hell with the prescribed safety regulations. Of course he was a highly trained and highly experienced and aware person, and I miss him. However the death risk to the average person or their children is very real. I definitely will not mention or recommend using the phone line, it is too risky to the public. The MacGyvers among us will do it in an emergency if they have to.
Another thing of course is what does the phone company say about you using their facility? "You are dangling our line in water for hours? Yes. sure, go ahead, no problem" OK, Tony Moody On 13 Dec 2013 at 10:23, M.G. Devour wrote about : Subject : CS>Amazon book review draft... > Hi gang, > > I've written up a rough draft of a book review to post here: > > http://www.amazon.com/Colloidal-Silver-Antibiotic-Johnny-Silverseed/dp/097 > 0825609 > > ...that touches on what I think are the most important issues. I'd > appreciate any comments or suggestions. > > Most important, I'd like those of you who've been hacking this process > more recently than I have to vet the designs I suggest, as I haven't > tested these. Are the resistor values in the ballpark given what I claim > to be wanting to do? > > Thanks! > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > >>>>> > > Some of the central ideas in this book are seriously dated. > > The most important thing to understand is that people who know "CS" have > moved away from ALL recipes that incorporate "a pinch of salt" or some > kind of brine or other solution as a "starter" to get the reaction going, > and any reference to "ppm per minute" or color as a way to estimate ppm. > While I wouldn't hesitate to use such CS on a short term basis, as an > emergency or field expedient measure, for example, these recipes pose too > much of a risk of argyria for routine, long-term or heavy use. > > Current best practice for a basic generator is to use very low current > over a number of hours to create a clear, colorless product that's largely > ionic, with a colloidal portion whose particles are too small to create > visible color. The result is versatile, stable, effective, and far safer > than what you get from the old recipes and designs. > > The simplest generator you can build to do this adds only one component to > the old-style basic design; you add a simple resistor in series with one > of the electrodes to limit current. If you use a single 9V battery, about > a 15K ohm resistor works. For 27V about 50K ohms will do. Using the phone > line, which puts out 50V except when it's ringing, use around 100K ohms. > > My target with these numbers is a design that will top out at about .5 > milliamps when the solution is saturated, and take upwards of 12 hours to > make a quart (or liter) of a decent quality 5 to 15 ppm from pure > distilled water. Just set it up and let it run overnight or until you just > start to see a beard of gray "fluff" forming on the negative electrode. > > As for the idea of a phone-line powered generator, it's clever, and > there's nothing technically wrong with the concept. Taking a half of a > milliamp of current from the line is far less than what the phone company > is already prepared to source for lots of standard telephone equipment. > For those who still have a landline, it's certainly practical. I'll leave > the ethics of the situation to your own discernment. > > There are a number of vendors selling nicely made generators with > additional features like more clever current limiting, polarity > switching for efficiency and to keep the electrodes clean, automatic > shutoff, and even stirring. Just steer clear of any that talk about > making a batch in only a few minutes, adding any kind of salt or other > starter to get the reaction going, bubbles or visible clouds of particles > forming at the electrodes, or that quote some "ppm per minute" figure. > They're the old style, and the product they make is much less safe than > what you ought to be looking for. > > Best of luck. > > Mike > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]> > >
