Hi Jason.

I'm aware of the pH issue but I'm using low voltage and low current. (1mA)

To make highly ionic CS the emphasis in the past has always been to use pure distilled water. (Mike Monnet was almost obsessed by it and believed the problem could be solved by ensuring everything was ultra, ultra clean. He never succeeded as far as I know).

The problem is that CS in pure water has a saturation point of about 24 ppm. Try as we might, nothing is going to change that. Its a chemical/physical barrier thats impossible to breach. The quest to make highly ionic CS in pure water is probably a waste of time.

I believe the answer is to find a conductive liquid medium that facilitates the electrical dissolution of silver but has a much higher saturation point so it does not force the silver ions to combine into particles.

I'm experimenting with something at the moment. Dissolving 100 ppm of silver into this common liquid raised the conductivity 100uS (exactly as predicted by a Faraday calc). Dissolving a further 100 ppm into the batch did not raise the uS by another 100 but it still didnt create a TE either. So where did the silver go?

100ppm raised the uS by 100 as predicted. (My assumption is that its 100 ppm of ionic CS). The other 100ppm 'dissappeared'. One thought I have is that it made particles so small they do not show in the frequency of a red laser.

Comments welcome.


David




Hi David:

That is interesting.  One thing to check:  pH.

I spoke with an associate who claimed to be making high PPM silver solutions, but I strongly suspect that it was silver nitrate produced from using HVAC, pulling nitrogen from the air into the distilled water.

If you can start with a neutral pH distilled water, and end with close to a neutral distilled water, that would be very fascinating to me.

Interesting stuff!

~Jason


On 2/16/2015 7:31 PM, Debra & David wrote:
Jason said  "I can't remember that last time I heard an original idea on
the silverlist... oh wait, I can!  It was from David, and the last
before that was probably a rehash on some ideas pioneered by Brooks
Bradley. ...  I always get the same response.  Not even anyone curious
about how I personally tested this theory or how they can test to see
the difference in quality.  Just three people or so saying they have no
need to clean the electrodes. "


Hello Jason

I now how you feel but I'm guilty of not responding myself. Its too hard
and I wonder anyone will read it anyway.

By the way, I've recently been making high ppm CS.  The total ppm is 200
as calculated by (Herx's) Faraday equation. The ionic strength is 100
(measurable with a uS meter) and the other 100 ppm is colloidal but the
particles are so small they do not show in a red laser beam. Its crystal
clear and very interesting! I'm laughing to myself that this is Frank
Key's Mesosilver and Mike Monnet's high ppm ionic CS all in one! Older
members would laugh of the irony of that.


David


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