Bill Schramm wrote:

>  I am sorry, that is not correct.  Check your math.  Negative numbers
> do not have logarithms, but logarithms THEMSELVES can be negative, and
> in fact are negative for any (positive) number between 0 and 1.  The
> log of 0.1 is minus 1, the log of 0.01 is minus 2, etc. The pH is
> actually defined as MINUS the logarithm of the hydrogen ion
> concentration in moles per liter.  So a pH of 7  means that the
> logarithm of the hydrogen ion concentration is MINUS 7, or the
> concentration itself is ten to the minus seventh power (moles per
> liter). Only in extremely strong, concentrated acids will there be
> more than one mole per liter.  When this is true, the logarithm of the
> molar concentration will be positive and therefore the pH will by
> definition be negative.  The bottle of muriatic acid says 20%
> concentration.  This would mean that in a liter of acid (1000 grams)
> about 200 grams would be HCl.   Divide this by the molecular weight of
> HCl which is about 36 and you get a little over 5 moles per liter
> which would correspond to a pH of minus 0.7    If you want a more
> reasonable approximation of stomach acid look up the pH of stomach
> acid and dilute accordingly.  Example, (I'm not a biologist) if
> stomach acid were pH 2, you should dilute the muriatic acid 500 to 1.
>
> Sorry, you are right.  I remember being taught that for logarithms of
> numbers below 1, that the exponent part is negative, but the mantissa
> is always positive, something I always considered very strange.
>
> Marshall