I can accept that there isn't 100% reporting because of course this is
human and we have all the reasons in the world not to report everything. I
can also accept a low number due to what Doctors have said only had one
half-day education on vaccines. Others do not even know what Vaers is. Also
having worked in healthcare for over 12 years myself, none of the nurses
that I had close ties to (I've had active conversations and some
friendships with many) did or were ever told to use Vaers following a
vaccination incident.

And when someone comes up with these numbers of under-reporting...have they
reviewed all hospital records to find vaccine-related incidents and looked
to see if they were reported or not?

So many reasons or variables there. But I personally do believe that it is
1% reported or even less with the pandemic. I've also heard of a report
where they claimed records in Vaers were being actively removed. All in
all, not good. It means for me anyway that we don't have the information we
need but we can't just hear from just one side only as the average person
gets from the media these days.

At least here, we are able to share the other side to be able to compare
and analyze what we've seen in the media. At least we can consider both
sides based on our own criteria and decide which is true or truer and best
for ourselves. At least this way we have some kind of much better-informed
decision-making for ourselves to go by. Especially since there is so much
that the one side is completely ignoring or obviously lying about in many
cases based on those who actually created, long-studied, and experienced
through many years of practice.


On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 12:30 AM Max <[email protected]> wrote:

> where is the link to killing 705k? That would be an undercount by VEARS of
> about 45 times.  I think Steve Kirsch and group determined 41 times,
> although he states 150,000 which is only ten times.   Dr Jessica Rose who
> gave the recent FDA presentation was at 31 times .   Others have determined
> its five times, and the range of 10 to 100 times is often given, citing  a
> study  done at Harvard Pilgrim Health of historical note
>
> " less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events
> are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer
> than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported."
>
>
> https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf
>
> That paper is notably deficient in describing how they arrived at the
> numbers
>
>
> This study found VAERS captured between 12% and 64% of various events
>
> The reporting sensitivity of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> (VAERS) for anaphylaxis and for Guillain-Barré syndrome
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33039207/
>
> While most death following vaccination occurs soon after injection,
> (showing a temporal relationship)  one study suggested a 300% increase in
> multiple sclerosis symptoms, while other studies show increased cancer risk
> and other long term diseases which may lead to death later, and are
> unlikely to ever be reported as vaccine related
>
>
> Cindiann and those in her camp can get an easy million dollar reward for
> proving Kirsch is wrong by a factor of 4 or more (must be a researcher) and
> 2 million goes to anyone who can prove NIH is right about their stance on
> Ivermectin
>
>
> https://www.skirsch.io/vaccine-resources/
>
> regards all
>
> Max
> On 10/18/2021 6:33 PM, Rick wrote:
>
> killed 705,000
>
>