Okay -- I think I got this figured out -- but tell me if I'm wrong. Both David and Marshall agree that from their research it appears that the north pole of a magnet is the one to be used for most healing and for magnetizing water. This pole can be identified as either the south seeking side of a magnet -- or the side that the north seeking needle on a compass points too.
So if this is true the large magnet that I bought for magnetizing water is properly labelled -- but the two tiny ones that I bought in the health store for my knuckle pain are labelled incorrectly and the reason they didn't help my knuckles is that I was actually applying the south side. Thats pretty scary that they sell (for a fair amount of money I might add) improperly labelled magnets which could then end up having the opposite effect of what you wish!! But at least I know how to test now -- however - I have another question. Yesterday - before I really understood this stuff -- I used my husbands cheapo compass to check which poles the magnets were. Today his compass is pointing it's red arrow at the south pole. He swears that it is supposed to point the red part of the arrow at the north pole and that it was doing that yesterday, but somehow got switched today. Is that possible? Could pointing it at a strong magnet do that? It's not demagnetized -- it points accurately at the north and south poles (we checked on the expensive compass which he won't let anywhere near my magnets) but with the wrong sides of the needle. Feedback, guys?? Other than that husbands are always right?? Katarina > Marshall Dudley wrote: > >> >We have been though all this before. > > Yep, we've been there', done that. > >> >The magnet may be labeled the north pole, or the >> >north seeking pole, either of which may be labeled north, >but are opposite. > > Not sure what you mean here, but if you mean the north > pole of a magnet is the opposite of the north seeking pole, > I agree. > >>To make matters worse some literature considers the true >>north pole of the earth as a south magnetic pole,< > >>so in that case both north seeking and north pole of the >>magnetic would point north. > > I guess my magnets and I are physically handicapped. > I have a front side and a back side and I don't know > how to get both sides facing the same direction. > My magnets have a north pole (south pole seeking side) and a > south pole (north pole seeking side) and they don't know how > to get their north pole side and their north pole seeking > side to face the same direction at the same time. > > > >> >Even worse, no one was able to say conclusively if the north >pole that > is suppose to be >> good for you is really the north >pole, or the north seeking pole. > > Not true. On page 22 of their book, "Magnetism and it's effects on the > living System" > Davis and Rawls have a drawing that > shows the "Earth" magnet as a bar magnet on the central axis > of the Earth and the bar magnet's north pole is very clearly > next to the Geographic north pole. > > On page 6, they say: > "It is of the upmost importance that you understand how we arrived at > identifying the poles > of a magnet, as many present-day magnet manufacturers do not code or > identify the poles > correctly. The two poles of any magnet are the N > pole and the S pole. As does the Earth, a magnet also has its two poles.The > simple means of > Identification of the two poles is to take a long straight bar or cylinder > magnet and tie a > string or thread at its center. Then tie the thread to a support that will > allow the magnet > freedom to swing freely, keeping it away > from all metal objects. The magnet will turn and slow,then > stop turning. The end of the magnet that is pointing to the N pole of the > Earth is "the S > pole of the magnet." > > > This is the information I used to make my magnet pads. > The magnets seem to have the effect Davis and Rawls say they > should have. That's pretty much all I need to know relative > to poles of a magnet. > > > Best Regards Everyone, > > David > Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 14:45:17 -0500 From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Re: Magnets/Help!!!! Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit POTTED PLANT wrote: > Marshall Dudley wrote: > > > >We have been though all this before. > > Yep, we've been there', done that. > > > >The magnet may be labeled the north pole, or the > > >north seeking pole, either of which may be labeled north, >but are opposite. > > Not sure what you mean here, but if you mean the north > pole of a magnet is the opposite of the north seeking pole, > I agree. > > >To make matters worse some literature considers the true > >north pole of the earth as a south magnetic pole,< > > >so in that case both north seeking and north pole of the > >magnetic would point north. > > I guess my magnets and I are physically handicapped. > I have a front side and a back side and I don't know > how to get both sides facing the same direction. > My magnets have a north pole (south pole seeking side) and a > south pole (north pole seeking side) and they don't know how > to get their north pole side and their north pole seeking > side to face the same direction at the same time. If the true north pole of the earth is actually the south pole of a magnet, then the north pole of the magnet would be the same side as the north seeking pole. For instance: http://www.einstein-newton.com/sci_phy_Magnets.htm where it says: "We know the North Pole of a magnet is attracted to the South Pole of another magnet. If the North Pole of a magnet points towards the earths North, the earths North must be a South Pole. The earth is a giant magnet with its a South Pole in its North, which makes a compass' (i.e. magnets) North Pole points North." > Not true. On page 22 of their book, "Magnetism and it's effects on the living System" > Davis and Rawls have a drawing that > shows the "Earth" magnet as a bar magnet on the central axis > of the Earth and the bar magnet's north pole is very clearly > next to the Geographic north pole. > Like I said before, there is disagreement, we could both produce documents that contradict each other on this all day. > On page 6, they say: > "It is of the upmost importance that you understand how we arrived at identifying the poles > of a magnet, as many present-day magnet manufacturers do not code or identify the poles > correctly. The two poles of any magnet are the N > pole and the S pole. As does the Earth, a magnet also has its two poles.The simple means of > Identification of the two poles is to take a long straight bar or cylinder magnet and tie a > string or thread at its center. Then tie the thread to a support that will allow the magnet > freedom to swing freely, keeping it away > from all metal objects. The magnet will turn and slow,then > stop turning. The end of the magnet that is pointing to the N pole of the Earth is "the S > pole of the magnet." > So this is the opposite of the above reference (which is only one of many I have found that say this, and just as many say what you are saying). > This is the information I used to make my magnet pads. > The magnets seem to have the effect Davis and Rawls say they > should have. That's pretty much all I need to know relative > to poles of a magnet. So from this information we need to use the end of the magnet that points south when you hang it from a thread. That is the bottom line. It is good that they are bringing together the healing end of the magnet in the same text as how the poles are determined. Finally we can maybe know for sure how to determine the "healing" end. Marshall
