Is the water heated almost to a boil before you start? A few times I've forgotten to disconnect my unit and after 20 - 30 minutes I've had a yellow-greenish solution with black flecks floating in it. I just can't imagine 90 minutes, even with unheated water. Is your solution clear after all that time? How fresh are your batteries? Have you ever tried the Tyndall effect with a laser pointer? What is this device that you're relying on for the PPM reading? How do you know how accurate it is?
Dick Robert Ratliff wrote: > The standard 3 9 volt battery. Remember I measure mine with a PPM meter. > Measures nothing in 10 min. Takes 1 1/2 hour to get to 8 PPM. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:19 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What > > gauge .999 fine > > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to > > make a 24 Oz. jar > > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using > > my 30 volt > > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer > > reflects a > > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it > > sure works. > > > > Dick > > > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the > > same amount of > > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles > > are larger. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > > make my CS in a > > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > > gave me that > > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. > > My 10 minute > > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick > > stirred into the > > > > > heated > > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > > > doing that for > > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow > > in color, in > > > > > about > > > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver > > plating uses > > > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > > > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > > > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > > > > > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > > > > > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > > > > > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no > > crystals! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] (took a day off from work today!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > > > > colloidal silver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail > > > > message to: > > > > > > > [email protected] -or- > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > > > > Silver-list archive: > > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > >
