Marshal said...

> Even if the particles that leave the wire are all the same size, they
quickly
> aggregate into larger particles if left in areas of high concentration.
That is
> why stirring can reduce particle size so well.
>
> HVAC basically does the stirring for you, the high voltage causes the
particles
> to quickly move away from the wire to lower concentration areas, and the
power
> causes movement due to convection currents. Also the alternating current
causes
> the hydrogen and oxygen that is produced to alternate between the
electrodes so
> that neither electrode becomes reducing or oxidating, they simple react
with
> each other making water, eliminating the oxides and blackening of the
> electrodes.

And I say...

Hrmmmm, so basically, AC stirs the solution? That's pretty cool, but in AC
powered operation isn't it true that some undesirable things may happen?

Not to pick on you, so please don't take this the wrong way (as I consider
you to be a valuable asset to the list, and the colloidal silver community
in general (some of your research is outstanding! IMHO)), however, I've
never gotten a really good rebuttal for the following...

I quote an old lister who says it best...

"In an AC powered operation as some others are promoting, where the polarity
is constantly switched, other undesirable things may happen; it is known
that in all electro-colloidal silver generating processes, some charge
stripping of silver ions does occur as they come in contact with the
cathode, resulting in their gaining electrons, and the resulting reduction
to atomic silver particles (without the charge that is said to produce the
pathogen disabling effect.) In a DC system, these reduced metallic particles
remain as a grayish 'sludge' buildup on the surface of the cathode, and
eventually are very visible at higher current levels. In a system where the
polarity is switched constantly (as in AC), this sludge is propelled and
dispersed back into the water continuously, as evidenced by the 'clean
electrodes' spoken of."

He then goes on to say...

"Mechanical effects of redispersal of plated out silver "sludge" from the
cathode will occur at higher concentrations and especially at higher
currents, especially if AC is used, resulting in much coarser, uncharged
metallic silver particles than may be desired floating about in your
product. Filtering with good lab quality filter media may be able to remove
some of this "non-ionic" silver; settling of most of the really larger
particle "clumps" might also occur within 72 hours, I'd estimate, if the
particles are not too fine. I guess the question is this; are the positively
charged colloidal silver ions, (as produced in a DC process), what you want
in your product, or do you want non-charged 'non-ionic' metallic silver
particles, as produced in the AC processes? From what I have researched and
what I understand at this time, I'd stay with Dr. Becker's recommendations
myself, and try to produce the positively charged Colloidal Silver Ions with
a DC process."

The old lister that I'm quoting above is none other than Bruce Stenulson and
for those that are interested, he's got a wonderful site up with tons of
colloidal silver info.  His main CS pages are...

http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/makecs.htm
The above is a great technical page

http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/cspulse.htm
The above tells one how to make a CS Generator / Zapper in great detail

http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/csdisc.htm
The above is some choice discussions from the silver list from a few years
ago, but still applicable

Yours in health,
James Allison

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