Superb.  Thank you.

James Osbourne Holmes
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FTNWO


-----Original Message-----
From:   Ivan Anderson [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Saturday, June 17, 2000 4:42 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        CS>Colloids Ions Bio-availability was Your Last Comments on my 
HVAC CS were lost

Things have been pretty lively lately, I can't comment on all the points
raised but I would like pick up a few, and make a few general
observations.

It is my view that all forms of electro-generated CS are effective in
controlling infection and so on.
One type may be better than another, but without proper double blind
testing we will never know for sure.
Test tube and petri dish limit tests can show marked difference in
killing power between the processes, but does this necessarily translate
in vivo.
Does the bio-availability depend upon the form of the silver.
Read on, mad scientist.

Colloids:
The definition of a colloidal system is "small 'particles' of one
substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This
latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous.
The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the
discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system
will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that
usually means less than about 1um in at least one important
dimension."  - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter.

Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or
colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit
little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as
colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm
(0.001 - 1.0 um).

So you can see that being colloidal does not refer at all to the
valence state of the dispersed particles, that is, the particles may
be charged or not.

Typically colloidal silver particles are charged, and therefore are
ionic in one sense of the term, and may comprise of flocks of
monatomic ions or a mixture of monatomic ions and metallic atoms.

The aggregation of particles into flocks is a complex interaction of
opposing forces:

Van de Waals force is a long range attractive force occurring between
any two particles of the same material and is present in all lyophobic
sols. The electrostatic repulsion which opposes aggregation, and the
attractive force which acts to bind particles together if they come
into close enough contact, is explained by the DLVO theory.

Obviously, the higher the charge a particle has, the more stable the
colloid (higher zeta potential). But as the particle size approach those
of true solutions, the solvation of the particles and Brownian motion
ensure dispersion and charge has less importance in colloid stability.

Ions:
An ion is a charged particle. The particle may be an atom, or a molecule
composed of like atoms or dissimilar atoms. In chemistry, generally ions
are the smallest form of the element or compound, in colloid chemistry
ions are usually much larger.

When a silver colloid forms, the colloid particles are comprised of what
is emanating from the electrodes, perhaps influenced by the pH and
purity of the water. So by and large, if single atomic ions leave the
anode, the colloidal aggregates are composed of atomic ions, and would,
I should think, form crystalline structures.
If what emanates from the electrode is small metallic particles, then
the aggregates would be uncharged metallic crystals, and if a mixture of
charged and uncharged...

When the particles are sputtered by electric arc, not only are silver
ions and metallic particles formed, but the atmosphere in which the arc
is formed may also undergo chemical change, the products of which may go
into solution or react with the silver particles forming silver
compounds. (this is not a value judgement).

These aggregates are not held together in the conventional covalent or
ionic bonds, but are rather loosely bound by van der Waals attraction,
indeed I believe that silver will not conduct electricity until at least
35 atoms have joined together.

Whether any of this matters inside the body is another matter!
Colloids do not enter the system with out help, they cannot simply cross
the cell membrane or penetrate the tight junctions between cells without
being transported by some chelating agent.
This implies that silver must be broken into atomic ions in order for
chelation to take place, and the loose attraction of small CS aggregates
probably promotes this process.

So perhaps when all is said and done colloidal silver enters the body as
atomic silver ions no matter what the specific contents of the bottle.

Ivan.







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