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> Ivan: Thanks very much for taking the time to respond, and your
willingness
> to stick your neck out... Let's just call it your working hypothesis
until
> more data become available. I must admit that I'm still a little
confused.
>
> I mentioned that I was taking the 2.3 mg of CS per day for 5 1/2
months
> BEFORE I stopped and started the main part (phase two) of my silver
> elimination/retention study. Wouldn't my body have had enough time
during the
> prior 5 1/2 months to have synthesized enough of these metal
scavenging
> proteins so that when I started the main part of my study, most of the
> retained silver in my body would have ALREADY started reporting to the
liver
> and finally to fece? However, it took several more weeks for the
silver
> elimination to BEGIN to shift toward fece. Does the body need THAT
much time
> to synthesize these scavengers, or is there another explanation for
this very
> late shift?  Roger

I am at a loss to explain these events Roger.
In all the reports I have seen the large majority of silver was found in
the faeces and little in the urine.

Perhaps other factors were involved, diet, supplements and so on.

> Ivan: Are you saying that systemic protection is difficult to achieve
>   because residual CS is bound too tightly to cells ?
>
> Ivan's Response:  I don't believe that free silver ions are found in
the body
> fluids for
>   long after ingestion, that the silver, which probably quickly
becomes
>   silver chloride, then would bind with the sulphur groups of proteins
in
>   the blood plasma and so may not be available to react with
pathogenic
>   cells. I should think that within a couple of hours little silver
would
>   remain in the blood stream.
>
>
> Ivan:
>
> My urine and fece sampling went on for months. The fact that during
most of
> that time by far the greatest proportion of silver was STILL found in
urine
> would mean -- based on your reasoning above -- that there was plenty
of free
> silver in the bloodstream to protect my body systemically. So I don't
> understand how you arrived at the conclusion that "within a couple of
hours
> little silver would remain in the bloodstream." Doesn't my study
support the
> opposite? If it does, wouldn't the following explanation of my results
be
> correct?

Roger, having silver in the urine implies having silver in the kidneys.
Having silver in the kidneys implies that the silver has been complexed
and removed from the plasma and is awaiting elimination.

One would need to test the blood for free silver ions in order to
determine the amount in circulation vs time.

I will do this, as I can test for silver ions, if I can get hold of some
syringes.

> When I took 2.3 mg CS/day, most of it remained in my bloodstream to
provide
> systemic protection because my body was not able to produce enough
metal
> scavengers to bind up the CS and make it unavailable to interact with
> pathogens. When I stopped taking CS, my body had an opportunity to
"catch up"
> (or quite possible my body didn't react to the greater presence of
silver in
> the first place because it "knows" -- through millions of years of
evolution
> -- that CS is harmless) because there was a declining presence of CS,
and,
> therefore, more and more of it was bound up by these metal scavengers
where
> it was sent to the liver and on to the gut where it was eliminated in
the
> fece.
>
> If the above paragraph is correct then in order to get systemic CS
protection
> take about (the exact amount is unknown until more research becomes
> available) 0.023 mg.CS/kilo of body weight of a good quality CS.
>
> Roger

You may be correct Roger, but that is a pretty long bow you are drawing.

Ivan.


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