Barb, You cannot apply this to CS generation at all, except in the most general of terms.
You must account for the work performed by the power input, ie the heat generated, the generation of other compounds, the amount of hydrogen and/or oxygen liberated at the electrodes, etc., and you must know the Coulombs consumed to begin with. This is no small task as the current passed through the cell increases exponentially with time. You will find most of these ideas, and more, have been discussed in the past, and can be found recorded in the archives. Regards Ivan. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 4 September 2000 10:31 Subject: Re: CS>Please stop ruining the CS list! > Dear Roger, > Okay lets play mad scientist. What do you think different volts will do to > water, asumming pure H2O with no impurities of any sort? > According to the water wizard Viktor Schauberger, heat, especially sunlight > is vary bad for the vitality of water, it removes a lot of the available > oxygen from the water I think is the reasoning. When I took basic chemisty > we did the electrolysis experiments where as you know one of the receptor > test tubes fills with oxygen and one with hydrogen and we all had a great > time taking a match and blowing up the hydrogen with a small "pop" in > class. I loved chemistry. anyway. Would not increasing voltage heat the > water more and do the same thing to some degree as direct sunlight? What > about all this talk out here of boiling water before making CS, what is > that supposed to do? I heard it made it easier to make CS without salt? But > how does it do this? > We know heating water in general works by molecular excitation. Heat in most > basic chemical reactions is a catalyst. What are we catalyzing in pure > water? Why actually does heating bond of hydrogen and oxygen get them > excited. DO you know what happens when other forms of water that we call > heavy water undergo electrolosis, would tritium and deuterium go "boom". > In general electrolysis, the change that takes place is as you know caused by > the loss of electrons at the anode, and the gain of the electrons at the > cathode. According to Ohm's law digging back in old memeories, we have the > formula E = IR for E being electromotive force as measured in volts, I > being current strength as measured in amps and R being of course > resistance. > Okay that is one set of variables. Now what can we do with this info relating > to water in which we intend to make colloidal sliver??? Hmm I am still > thinking here, smoke coming out of the ears. > According to Faraday's laws we can effect various chemical separtions this > way. By a method called electrodeposition we could tell maybe that there > was a metal in the water and it was indeed silver. > I think I saw some of this electrodepositino occur in the batch of CS I made > yesterday, the wires were dirtier thatn they ever had,covered in a gooey > slag.. > According to Faradays' laws pertaining to this. 1)The mass of any substance > deposited at an electrode is proportional to the quantity of electricity > which passes through the solution. > The other law which might pertain to our proposed mad scientist work is 2) > The amounts of different substances liberated at the electrodes by the > passage of the same quantity of electricity are proportional to the > equivalent weights of the substances. > So,based on Faradays first law, we could assume that the weight of a > substance liberated from solution by electrolysis during a given time will > be directly proportional to the current strength and under a given amperage > will be directly proportional to the time.????? > Some experiments have found that it takes about 96,500 coulombs of > electricity to deposit at the cathode > Ag/1 = 107.88 g of silver from a solution of silver salt. So that number > 96,500 coloumbs is now a standard unit and called a faraday. One > faraday=96,500 coulombs .coloumbs=96,500ampere-seconds = 26.81 > ampere-hours. This is also equivalent to 6.023 x 10**23 which is of course > Avagadro's number. (sorry about my lousy math symbol formatting > capabilities) Moving right along. > That leaves us with Ag+ + e-> Ag where the symbol e represents the electron. > If these equations are considered as representing gram-atomic or gram > molecular ratios then the symbol represents the faraday. > That is 1,2,or 3 faradays are required to deposit a gram-atomic weight of > metal from a solution of silver salt. > So how do we apply this to a 9-volt battery that runs my silver maker? My > chemisty/physics/ and electronic skills are a bit rusty. > Regards, > Barb > > > > Michael Lee Finney > [email protected] > [email protected] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. 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