It takes awhile to realize this, doesn't it?
The other side of this coin is, "you can't die, you have no right!"
Awfully presumptive, isn't it?
                                        Chuck
The lion and the lamb shall lie down together,
 but the lamb won't get much sleep!

On 30 Sep 2000 7:38:4 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

>In transactional analysis or game playing this is called the "Yes, but"
>game.    Such people according to Bob Beck subconsciously WANT to die and
>play the game  "beat the healer"   I have played that game with enough
>family and friends and acquantances until I am tired.  IF this man will
>only take one product then he is not fully committed to getting well.  If
>he were fully committed he would leave no stone unturned in his serach for
>a cure.  He wants to die.    that is all I can say.


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