Joanne ThomasonSenor Torres, Gracias Amigo! You can bet that I am interested in 
such a vaccine!  What is it? What is the name of it?  Who has it? Where is it 
available? What is the cost? Where can we find some research documentation on 
this vaccine? All the "W" questions! Please get back to us with some answers 
now that you have our curiosity rushing out like searching missles! Good 
Morning to you, Alex:  Robert Bartell

Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Torres 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:35 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>diabetes


  Dear Joanne and all afflicted with diabetes.
  SORRY, BUT WRONG IN ALL THAT YOU WROTE!
  First: diabetes patient must eat ALL the carbohidrates they want or desire... 
no restrictions... the problem with diabetes is that the INSULIN is not working 
as a transporter From blood to all the tissues and cells to be burned. You have 
LOTS of carbohidrates (glucose to be more precise) in your curculatory system 
(blood0 but this carbohidrates cannopt get to the cells... they send to the 
brain the order for carbohidrates, and you feel hungry (polyphagia+eat a lot) 
the carbohidrates in excess in your blood produces a diuretic effect 
(polyuria+urinate a lot) and as you are dehidrated with this your body asks for 
water, lots of water (Polydipsia+drink a lot of water or liquids)
  This three P's are always in diabetes patients... but the problems is not an 
excess of carbohidrates, the problem is that the insuline is poor in quntity or 
QUALITY... What means Quality? Just months ago it was discovered that diabetes 
is NOT AN HEREDITARY disease. Instead, it was discovered that diabetes is an 
autoimmune disease. This means that the body starts to produce antibodies 
AGAINST your Insuline, not letting  the insuline to work (reduced quality of 
action). You can have enough or a lot of insuline, but this insuline is NOT 
working.
  A test in blood looking for INSULINE and looking for antibodies against 
insuline makes the diagnosis... and you can attack those antibodies with a 
vaccine that can make your body to accept the insuline as part of the body.
  With this innovative technique, widely used and proved in Mexico, thousands 
of patients are free form insuline and hypoglicemic drugs, they are CURED and 
with glucose blood tests normal.
  Please ask me if are interested, this theme is really amazing and believe, it 
is true!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Joanne [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:14 PM
    To: silver-list
    Subject: CS>diabetes


    Hello Gaston and Robert...
    I have type 2 diabetes and have had it for years.  My BS has been all over 
the place but has settled down to 120 or below regularly I am on glyburide also 
2  tablets a day, one before eating  breakfast and dinner.  It was not till I 
was also placed on Glucophage that I really got control.  I take it after 
meals, 2 a day or if I feel I have overeaten I take and extra one.
    In spite of the fact I have diabetes I still was not taking care of myself 
as I should and have eaten more carbs than one should.  You know the pills take 
care of it and I was under control.  (I thought) Beginning Nov, 1 (had to get 
rid of the Halloween candy) I gave up all sugar completely. and  am trying to 
eliminate foods with a high glycemic index..  Interesting info. from a friend 
    Foods with high glycemlic index are prone to activate diabetes sooner or 
later. 

    The more you eat them the more you have to eat  It is a real addiction.  
What happens is that once you take sugar (and any simple carbohydrate) you'll 
immediately produce lots of BS.  That's not good for you so your body starts 
producing lots of insulin in order to get rid of the sugar.  The sugar will be 
stored in cells and a few minutes  after that your BS will be very low and you 
will have to eat immediately.  The cycle goes on and on.  You'll develop 
insulin resistance which means you'll need more and more insulin to get the 
same result.  Eventually no matter how much insulin your pancreas produces it 
will not be enough to lower the blood glucose level.  Now you have Diabetes.  
You have to break the cycle.  Stop eating sample carbohydrates.  Fat burning 
exercises (walking) helps for different reason, one of them because it lowers 
insulin resistance.

    I have also started walking each day  (VERY IMPORTANT) and I feel great and 
my blood sugar averages about 100.  What does you wife eat.?  You really need 
to watch the carbs!!  It is good you are interested in helping her control the 
diabetes but ,and please do not take this in the wrong way, she also needs to 
take control and be responsible for her own treatment.  I have since giving up 
the carbs and walking and it has only been a couple of days have cut my meds in 
half.

    I hope you can get this under control.  I had a foot infection as a result 
of it and have eye problems but I have that under control now.

    Good luck and best wishes

    Joanne

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