Joanne ThomasonDear Joanne,
maybe my bad English goes to some different understandings. O.K. The
diabetic must follow a diet, but not stopping completely ALL the
carbohydrates make things better. It is the same when a car with a
carburetor flooded do not want to start. The solution is not fill the gas
tank to avoid that excessive gasoline at the carburetor (That cannot be
burned) The solution is to FIX the carburetor and everything will be well.
In diabetes, I receive frequently patients suffering of caquexia (poor
nutrition) because they stop or reduce to a very risky degree the ingestion
of carbohydrates. The problem UNDERSTAND ME is not excessive consumption of
carbohydrates, no, the problem is that the carbohydrates are not carried to
the cells and stays at the blood in high concentrations due to a lack of
insuline... problem is Insuline produced by the pancreatic gland (to be more
precise beta cells of the Langerhans islets) are: NOT producing enough
insuline OR the insuline is produced in adequate quantities BUT is destroyed
or nullified by antibodies leading to a poor diffusion or transporting of
the carbohydrates. Here at my practice I receive patients that the doctor
says: "Sorry guy, but you have diabetes and you need to stop (Read STOP)
eating carbohydrates, and those doctors (I receive the same reports from
patients about similar words from USA doctors, not only Mexican doctors)
never were or received a nutrition class. Most doctors says: NO eat this...
not eat that... and if the patient is inquisitive, he maybe ask:"well
doctor, what I will go to eat?"
The diabetic patient can eat all the kind of carbohydrates he desire, but
need to learn to increase or reduce the insuline or hypoglycemic drug
accordingly to: Exercise, work, and way of living.
A diabetic patient can (and must, because are necessary to the
metabolism)eat or drink carbohydrates, but in a BALANCED DIET. Not only
carbohydrates... hope you understand, but a well (old) control of the
diabetes can be done with a well adjusted dosage... of insulin (old way to
treat diabetes) and exercise, food intake and way of living.
As an example: If you are planning to escalate the Himalaya, you will need:
More food that contains more carbohydrates, BUT more insuline... and if you
plan to rest all the day, not a lot of food (carbohydrates) and less
insuline. The pancreatic gland is so smart that can done this   without our
intervention, but our patient with diabetes must be really smart to get
under control the diabetes.
Other point is to use the vaccine... I DO NOT HAVE THE VACCINE, I CAN HELP
YOU TO GET THE REACTIVE TO THE VACCINE or you can come to Mexico and get
cured of your diabetes definitively... believe it ,it is true.
Did you followed the links I sent with my last message?
On those links, 13,000 patients (or more) were certified to be cured with
the vaccine, with the certification of a Public attorney, a lawyer (Not the
person that has the commission to certify in USA that is not a lawyer) that
cannot lye, because everything goes to the Government in books that cannot
be altered by any way... a Notary Public in Mexico is a real ethic person.
Please read all the articles, interviews to the doctor that invented the
vaccine, or make some Spanish speaking friend to translate the most
important parts, and I beg your pardon if you got angry with me, but I tried
to make you understand that stopping carbohydrates is not the way to control
diabetes, reducing and adjusting dosages of hypoglycemics or insuline (old
way without cure, slavery to this) is the only way... or be cured with the
vaccine.
Alex Torres M.D.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Joanne [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:04 PM
  To: silver-list
  Subject: CS>DIABETES AND CARBS


   Dear Alex and all others who  have been writing about diabetes.  First I
believe if I remember correctly it is Dr. Alex in which case in my opinion
you are being IRRESPONSIBLE and bordering on Malpractice to tell a diabetic
or anyone for that matter diabetics must eat all the carbohydrates they want
or desire - no restrictions.  Did you not learn about simple and complex
carbohydrates.  An apple is not the same as  Snickers bar., and to suggest
to ANYONE they can have all they want is absurd!
  There well may be a vaccine on the way and that would be great.   I am all
for it but just because you have a vaccine for diabetes should not mean you
should continue to abuse your body.  Just because your blood sugar may test
out in the normal range does not necessarily mean you are healthy.  I was
101 last night and 77 this morning.  Pretty good numbers but I am not
healthy but I am doing my best to get there.  It is important to monitor
your sugars and your diet in general.  I have been off sugar now for only 3
days and I feel wonderful along with walking.  I have cut my meds in half
and my goal is to get rid of them all together with or without a vaccine.
Why wait.

  Marsha I am really surprised at you and please don't take it  to personal
but if you admit you are overweight (me too) and eat a lot of sugar please
stop!!!  You are still a young woman.I cannot tell you how wonderful i feel
and how energized I am after only 3 days.  Going back to school you need
energy and the best way to get it is to get off of simple carbs (sugar,
canny, cookies ets.)  Why don't you and all the others who have this problem
join me.  I have set a short tem goal which will be followed by another
short term goal.  We are entering the food season here.

   Dr.Alex you also said drink lots of water or fluids.  I must disagree
with that.  WATER YES but fluids can include all kinds of juices full of
sugar, sodas full of caffeine  and sugar but water YES.

  I forwarded Dr.Alex.s letter to  a friend and will forward his response.
This person knows a lot about nutrition and is perfect example of good
health.  If you are not interested then please delete--it may get long.

   Dr. Alex I did not mean to appear rude or anything I just disagree with
you and I guess we can agree to disagree,  I have lived with this thing for
a long time   Thank you all for your suggestions and Ted yes please keep me
informed and everyone else too

  Sincerely

  Joanne




    Dear Joanne and all afflicted with diabetes.SORRY, BUT WRONG IN ALL THAT
YOU WROTE!First: diabetes patient must eat ALL the carbohydrates they want
or desire... no restrictions... the problem with diabetes is that the
INSULIN is not working as a transporter From blood to all the tissues and
cells to be burned. You have LOTS of carbohidrates (glucose to be more
precise) in your curculatory system (blood0 but this carbohidrates cannopt
get to the cells... they send to the brain the order for carbohidrates, and
you feel hungry (polyphagia+eat a lot) the carbohidrates in excess in your
blood produces a diuretic effect (polyuria+urinate a lot) and as you are
dehidrated with this your body asks for water, lots of water
(Polydipsia+drink a lot of water or liquids)

  Yes, he is right when he says "INSULIN is not working as a transporter"
This is true for
  diabetes type II and this is what I called "insulin resitance", that is,
although your
  pancreas keeps producing insulin as it should, insulin does not transfer
sugar
  from the blood into the cells. Then sugar is kept in your blood stream.
Your
  brain can not tolerate it (your brain is very sensitive to blood sugar
fluctuation!)
  so it tries do get rid of it urination and, which brings dehydration,
which brings
  the need to drink more water... If this does not work fast enought, you
may faint,
  feel feeble, etc.

  So, on this front the doctor is completely right. Now, let's go to the the
other
  item: is it true that  "diabetes patient must eat ALL the carbohydrates
they
  want or desire... no restrictions"? No, this is not correct. because if
you do it,
  you'll not only suffer with the symptoms already mentioned, but also more
  serious things will happen, like myopia or irreversible blindness. But not
only
  that, your insulin resistance will get worse and worse.

  So, in order to revert and eventually cure the disease, you must make
  your body work as expected under insulin. In as few words as possible,
  your body needs REST. Now, if you eat only low glycemic index
carbohydrate,
  in moderation, you're pancreas will have to produce less insulin with a
better
  distribution (say, during four hours after you eat, not during 15 minutes
  after you eat). Slowly your cells will become sensitive to insulin again.

  It also has been demonstrated that your body is most sensitive to insulin
  15 minutes after any aerobic exercise (like a brisk walk or a slow run).
  It stays highly sensitive for about 10 to 20 hours after the exercise.

  So, if you avoid high glycemic index food AND also do some
  exercise, you will reap immediate benefits (you may be able to notice
  it in two or three days!).

  So, that doctor is wrong when he says there are no restrictions. Of
course,
  you should keep taking carbohydrates, but only complex carbohydrates.
  And certainly not "ALL you want or desire" (no one should eat ALL he/she
  wants or desire. Moderation is key for good health).

   This three P's are always in diabetes patients... but the problems is not
an excess of carbohidrates, the problem is that the insuline is poor in
quntity or QUALITY... What means Quality? Just months ago it was discovered
that diabetes is NOT AN HEREDITARY disease. Instead, it was discovered that
diabetes is an autoimmune disease. This means that the body starts to
produce antibodies AGAINST your Insuline, not letting  the insuline to work
(reduced quality of action). You can have enough or a lot of insuline, but
this insuline is NOT working.

  Again, he is right, except that this was not discovered months ago. It has
always
  been known that diabetes is associated with insulin, either there is too
little (juvenile diabetes
  or insulin-dependent diabetes) or does not work (adult diabetes).

  Again, this is the already mentioned "insulin resistance".
   A test in blood looking for INSULINE and looking for antibodies against
insuline makes the diagnosis... and you can attack those antibodies with a
vaccine that can make your body to accept the insuline as part of the
body.With this innovative technique, widely used and proved in Mexico,
thousands of patients are free form insuline and hypoglicemic drugs, they
are CURED and with glucose blood tests normal.Please ask me if are
interested, this theme is really amazing and believe, it is true!

  As to this "vaccine", it is new to me, but certainly makes some sense.
What does
  not make sense to me is to know that there are people who know
  how to avoid or to cure a disease, but instead of curing it they will
  prefer to keep their bad eating habits a take a  "vaccine".
  Of course, this will allow these people to keep assaulting their bodies.


  Avoid the high glycemic and keep walking and you will need no "vaccines".
  Don't rush yourself into longer distances or faster pace. Half an hour is
  already very good. But if you are sure you really want to go for 40
minutes
  or one hour, just do it. But remember: walking EVERYDAY and feeling good
  everyday is better than walking two or three days a week and feeling
tired.

  You should never feel tired. After each walk you should feel energized.
  If you are walking in the morning, the best time to eat is AFTER the walk,
  not before. If you can do it without eating anything, so much the better.
  This will "teach" your body to burn fat instead of sugar. And insulin
  will work much better after you walk, so that's the best time to eat
  some (complex) carbohydrate).




















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