Joanne ThomasonThanks Joanne,
I was having the same reservations about Torres.  We'll see! Regards: Robert 
Bartell
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joanne 
  To: silver-list 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:18 PM
  Subject: CS>Diabetes vaccine and fructose


  I sent Dr. Torres  message regarding  a vaccine for diabetes to  a f friend 
who speaks spanish and was able to read his links.  I also asked him the 
question regarding fructose.  His responses follow.  He is very knowledgable 
abourt nutrition.
  Joanne


  Dear Joanne

  Since diabetes type II is not insulin-dependent (that is, the person's  
pancreas
  produces
  insulin normally), but insulin-resistant (that is, the insulin does not 
produce
  the expected
  results), it is clearly a bodily dysfunction that can be restored with proper
  care. I know
  that aerobic exercise, weight loss and proper food will do the trick.

  Other things might work too.

  Now, the way Alex Torres introduced his "vaccine" is quite suspicious. Firstly
  with some irresponsible declaration about eating habits (in his previous
  message);
  secondly, with so many useless references to the doctor who invented the
  vaccine.
  It does not add value to know that he taught "Che" Guevara or that his
  father's  bone are in the "Rotunda".

  The immunization process he mentions is very well known. It has been used
  to treat a bunch of diseases, from acne and pustule to cancer and several
  other degenerative diseases. The results have always been more or less
  inconclusive.

  Now, I want to be very careful about this because altough I find everything
  here very suspect, I still think it might be worthwhile to do some additional
  research.

  It is a well-known fact that the tradional labs do not support medical 
research
  that leads to cheaper treatments, especially of those diseases that force the
  patient to take medicine for the rest of theirs lives. This represents 
trillions

  of dollars a year and no lab wants to lose this.

  Also, researches conducted outside the US are not readily accepted by American
  authorities.

  I read one of the articles mentioned by Alex Torres. Unfortunately, it is not
  a good document. It is emotional. It mentions 600 patients cured of several
  diseases, especially diabetes. But the way they "prove" the cure it by
  quoting the patients themselves. No blind test, no double blind, no lab tests
  are referred to. It still may work, but the articles are not acceptable.

  So, I am NOT saying this auto-vaccine can not work or will not work.
  What I am saying is that
  it requires further investigation before someone decides to take the risk of
  having manipulated blood re-injected in his/her body. Since the blood is
  his/her own, risk is minimum, but still exists. Especially because flasks can 
be

  intermixed, etc.

  Also, good eating habits plus exercise will not only control diabetes but also
  bring other benefits. So, the most conservative and the safest decision
  is try this first.

  The general tone of Alex' messages coincides with the tone I found in the
  articles and papers he mentions: the cure does exist, but Mexican authorities
  are not interested in acknowledging it; American authorities will not 
recognize
  his merits; ...

  Nothing he says is necessarly wrong, but suspicious.
  
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  In my opinion people should not eat any form of "purified" or "refined" 
sugar. This includes 
  fructose. In fact, sucrose, saccharose, glucose, maltose and the several 
other "ose" are 
  all "empty"  calorie. What this means is very serious. Let's say you eat 100g 
of any of 
  these sugars. You'll get 400 calories, but no vitamins, no minerals, no 
proteins, no fat. 
  You still need such nutrients, so you'll have to eat additional food to get 
those elements. 
  What is worse: your body can not process sugar without consuming enzymes, 
vitamins 
  and minerals, so you'll have to eat MORE in order to compensate for the 
nutrients 
  the empty calorie food used up. 

  So, you have two good reasons NOT to eat any form of sugar: a) excess 
calories; 
  b) nutrients depletion. 

  Now, fructose, in a sense is better than all the other sugars, the reason 
being it has 
  a low glycemic index, which means it does not play havoc with your 
insulin/glucagon 
  production, as the other sugars do. 

  So, from the point of view of insulin resistance, fructose is better. >From 
the point of 
  view of nutrition, it is the same. 

  There is another little factor in favor of fructose: since is it 1.5 times 
sweeter than 
  sucrose (table sugar), you would take less to have the same effect, so you 
tend to 
  end up with a little less empty calories. 

  Now, there is a situation where you should NOT be affraid of fructose: when 
you eat 
  fresh fruits, like apples. In this case you'll be ingesting little fructose 
(maybe 15 g) 
  and it will be accompanied by very important vitamins, minerals, fiber, 
enzymes, pectin, 
  etc. So, go for it! 

  Again, once fructose is synthesized or "extracted" from the fruits it is not 
good 
  anymore. Now, if you MUST have something sweet, among the bad stuff, 
  fructose is the least dangerous. 


    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    






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