In a message dated 5/1/01 10:32:28 PM EST, [email protected] writes:
<< http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/colloidalsilverfacts At first I thought, cool, maybe I'll find some documented facts about cs. But, this is what the list owner has to say about cs. Just thought some of you may be interested. ~Hanan (Still puzzled by the lack of activity on my lists) sfropeem64 One researcher out of BYU is conducting animal studies to determine if silver colloids do anything in the body. Already The University of the Pacific has conducted studies that show that a specific silver colloid solution seems to be effective on sinus infections. Another study out of BYU found just ONE commercially available product to be standardized and effective on killing some types of bacteria in petri dishes. That product was the only one that has a patent on it's manufacture and is standardized. My reply: I would like to see the documentation which support these conclusions This is interesting because one of the things that was repeated to me by the colloidal silver true believers over and over was that there can be no patents on silver colloids. Again it was obvious that many people making and using their own colloidal silver that are on colloidal silver lists are ignorant and lazy and misinforming people; My reply: This conclusion is almost laughable. Patents can and are awarded every day with regard to NEW processes that produce OLD products. that proI was able to find research on it, patents, and scientific evidence that one type of standardized, patented colloidal silver solution seems to work on specific problems. Why nobody else could be bothered to get off their lazy asses and make a few phone calls and write a few emails and letters I do not know. Why they consistently denied that there were patents on making silver colloid and that any scent scientific research existed showing it worked is another bizarre mystery of the colloidal silver cultists. They seemed to all be too busy congratulatin themselves on how smart and innovative they were, when in reality they have been giving out loads of bad "information" and creating a silly little cult. They have found their "miracle" (a word frequently used) in silver colloid, but their "miracle" could have just as easily been found in potato peels by naive and ignorant people. My comments: Additional ill informed remarks. American Silver makes a "ASAP Colloidal Silver Solution" that is the only product I am aware of that is standardized, has a patented process, and has been proven by researchers to do anything at all. My reply: Show us the documentation which supports this conclusion. You can try making colloidal silver on your own with distilled water, silver electrodes, and nine volt batteries; or you can by a proven standardized solution that is patented. I've tried several different products as well as made my own and have yet to find that colloidal silver does anything for me, my pets, or plants. My reply: Did the writer make ANY attempt to measure the effect of using CS on himself, his animals and plants? How did he reach the conclusion that CS doesn't work? Still I am hoping we'll know more as the BYU animal studies and other research continues. I think the issue is one of standardization and method of application as well as knowing and proving what colloidal silver works and does not work on. This can and will eventually be worked out in the lab and in studies that are happening now. People claim colloidal silver kills 650 different types of bacteria andpathogens; yet they also claim it does not kill off the natural beneficial flora that live in the gut and are needed to be there for optimal health. Well, newsflash, you can't have it both ways. You can't claim that colloidal silver selectively kills only the "bad" bacteria and leaves the beneficial bacteria alone. Antibiotics don't do this, and colloidal silver does not do it in the lab in petri dishes. So there's an obvious inconsistency in the claims made by the people that insist that colloidal silver is a "cure" for everything from asthma to athlete's foot to body odor to plaque, and claims that it is "a natural antibiotic" that somehow only kills off the "bad" bacteria. My reply: More evidence that the writer has only a superficial knowledge about CS and its effects. For example, my recent List poll revealed that about 4% of the approx. 230 direct and indirect respondents DID experience digestive problems due to ingesting CS. Most of this group were taking relatively large quantities of CS, on the order of a pint or most a day. So the truth about colloidal silver is going to be gradual and probably obscured and maligned to a great extent by these foolish and idiotic miracle seekers that are lying about aspects of colloidal silver and are interested not in any kind of truth, but in something to cling to as a "miracle". It's all pretty sickening and dreadful. My reply: The only thing "sickening and dreadful" is this writers lack of objectivity and ignorance. I am grateful that there are honest researchers who are working hard to give us honest answers, and that they are ready and willing to talk to people, if people would just bother to contact them. My reply: Yes, please provide us with names, and research documentation so we can share this CS enlightenment. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
