I have seen the name in summons in upper and lower. The complaint is all upper; against the Strawman. The name in the summons upper and lower, instructing the surety to come in and be responsible for the fiction.
James-Osbourne: Holmes -----Original Message----- From: Ted Windsor [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 10:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Cure, treatment or preventative... Sorry to respond in an off topic manor, nobody cures anything, feed the body what it needs and the body will heal it's self. The following message contains profound statements, if this does not answer many questions that people on this list may have nothing will. The writer obviously knows who he is, when others find out who they are, no one will ever have jurisdiction over them. The real you is your thinking, no one knows what you are thinking but you, without thinking try moving your body! There are two entities in this world. the legal fiction entity created by government and the real live flesh and blood natural man or woman. All rules and regulations are written for the legal fiction entity they do not apply to a natural flesh and blood live man or woman. [ Live people are governed by common law, not statute law] If you don't believe me then the next time you receive a document from any government institution or corporation look at how they have spelled your name. It is in CAPITAL LETTERS, this is how they address a legal fiction entity, this is not the way your parents registered your name at birth. Do some research and find out for yourself. Blessings Ted Ode Coyote wrote: > Prime statement: > It is not the governments [or an insurance companies] place to protect me > from myself. The SOLE legitamite function of law is to protect me from my > neighbor and vice versa. [Common Law by a jury of your peers ( meaning people who know you, not someone off the street) is what will protect your from in-justice, from your neighbor or vice versa. > > > Somehow, it's come down to making stupidity a crime coupled with > prevention of learning. > These days I can't buy a car that will start without depressing the > clutch..and I'll never learn why I should depress the clutch. All my > thinking has been done for me. I'll never even know how stupid I can be. > > Conversely, It's not required that anyone take responsibility for the > results of my decisions. [ You are totally responsible for all your actions and or statements] > > If I want to commit suicide, you have no right to forceably prevent it, > and no obligation to take care of failure, but you do have a right to sell > the leftover meat for dog food to cover cleanup expenses. After all, I > didn't respect it, so why should anyone else? > > However, FULL disclosure is essential for proper decision making...not one > sided propaganda.[regardless of what side] > Government should not take sides, it should inform without ommission. [What you really want is full closure, ( dis ) disclosure means no closure) Why do you think lawyers love this word, it gives them the right to lie] > > > [[On a positive note, drug ads now have disclaimers even to the > extreme...WARNING "This sleep aid may cause drowsiness"]] > > Prime statement: Freedom and security are diametrically opposing concepts. > If I expect anyone to bail me out, I give up the freedom to row my boat. > > "The FDA has no information that "xxx" is safe and effective" > > Just because thay don't have the info doesn't mean the info that others > have is false. [Or true..it means nothing] > CS probably DOES kill 650 pathogens [in petrie dishes]...but...getting the > CS TO the pathogens in the body where they are causing disease...that's the > problem. > So, "kills 650 disease causing organisms" and "cures 650 diseases" are not > the same statement. One statement doesn't mean the other is true nor does > it NOT mean the other is true to no extent. > Both sides omit the lack of continuity. > > It certainly is a concern that CS sellers [read "hucksters"] make > fantastic claims when they have no idea of what they're talking about with > the same mouth breeze that the FDA uses to make counterclaims. > Cure arthritis? Probably not. Prevent a specific pathogen caused > arthritis? Maybe. so. > Kills viruses? Almost certainly. Cures virus caused disease? Maybe. > > Be aware that "treatment" and "cure" are two different things. Treatment > means "might work" Cure means "did work". > No treatment is a guarantee. Most have some risks. Many "accepted" ones > have very serious risks, the least of which is failure to cure. > > Listers know there are limits and that CS is not a 100% miracle cure but > we also know from experience that it's not worthless. > NO TREATMENT is 100% ,FDA approved or not. Every case and every person is > unique. Effectiveness is a statistical thing, not an absolute even in the > FDAs own protocal...but they ignore statistics from any source other than > an approved one. [and the approved sources stilt the statistics nearly as > badly as the hucksters] > > Further, the FDA grossly misrepresents the info they DO have. > http://silverpuppy.com/fda.html > > Why in heck doesn't the FDA do some research themselves to prove that > something ISN'T safe and effective rather than just saying it isn't because > no one has done [or released] the research? > ..gosh! So many new silver products being marketed now..with FDA approval! > > I know of at least 3 doctors and one dentist that have been amazed by > their patients recoveries after their treatments failed...but the evidence > hits a blank wall even when it's right in their face. > Placebo effect? Spontanious remission? Maybe so, but none want to look. > It must have been a miracle. OK, cool. > But why are thousands of testimonials simply dismissed...even if the > hundreds of amazed doctors clam up? Some doctors admit amazement and even > do some testing...but that is also "dismissed". [OK, so that's not proof. > But no one has "proof" of anything. They operate on statistical > "indications". Thousands of testimonials and many studies indicate "nothing > there, so don't even look"?] > > Personally, I'll do my rain dance and let everyone believe what they > want..nor will I tell you what to believe one way or the other. > > My disclaimer: I only say what "I" see and do..not what you should. You > have your brain, not mine, for a reason. > > Does the FDA do any more than rubber stamp a drug companies research on > their own product..then pull it when hundreds die? Not. > Some protection! > > The FDA should take over testing if they're going to make negative claims. > They should do the testing on public monies and take steps to insure > impartiality. The drug companies should stick to developmental research and > drop their prices to reflect the savings. > "Hey, look what we found! This is why we think it will work. Check it out > and see if it works like we think it will" > Any other way amounts to approving the company...not the product. > > We all know that it's impossible to get to Pluto because no one in an > official position has done it yet. [but that doesn't mean that everyone who > tries is going to get there] > > "I don't know" doesn't make it 'so' any more than "someone said so"..but > neither statement doesn't make it NOT so, either. > "WE don't know anything about it and won't look, so it's nothing..and if > it's nothing, it must be dangerous." B.A.H.! [Bullshit and Hypocrisy] > ..and by the way, If by chance We DO take a look at something we know > nothing about...we'll be sure to look at something that 'looks something > like it' presented to us by people who don't want us to see , rather than > "IT". > > Bank robbers are professionals too...making money the old fashioned way. > Ken [Very good Ken] > > > At 05:32 PM 7/12/01 -0700, you wrote: > > > > "...The FDA and FTC have identified firms that marketed > >Colloidal Silver as > > a cure, treatment, or prevention of serious diseases. As part > >of Cure.All, > > the FDA identified forty-eight (48) Web sites that made > >serious drug > > claims for Colloidal Silver, as well as a number of other > >products. The > > FDA sent these Web sites Cyber Letters, untitled letters sent > >via > > electronic mail, informing them that their products were > >being promoted > > for conditions that may cause the products to be considered > >drugs and > > therefore may be in violation of the Federal Food, Drug, and > >Cosmetics > > Act. As a direct result of these Cyber Letters, 27 percent of > >the sites > > complied by removing or changing the violative claims..." > > > >Full article: > >http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/06/cureall.htm > >============================== > >Gee, wonder if it's OK to even THINK about it? > >jr > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >[email protected] -or- [email protected] > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > -- Ted Helping Hand Consulting http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com

