Hello Langsley, Friday, September 21, 2001, 1:39:40 PM, you wrote:
LR> In my continuing quest for information prior to purchasing a CS generator I LR> previously asked whether AC or DC was preferable. Not surprisingly I got LR> differing opinions in responses. LR> One of the things that was pointed out is that there are more than one kind LR> of each and that the product produced varies greatly. So let me ask about LR> one product or line of products specifically which definitely appears to be LR> quite different from others being offered. I am referring to the MHVAC LR> (Medium High Voltage Alternating Current) Uni-Phase line from CS Pro systems LR> inc. LR> Depending on which model one chooses, they use either 3 or 9 electrodes and LR> claim to produce a CS product with a particle size of 0.0005 0.015 micron. LR> Does any of you have any experience with this line of products? Can any of LR> you comment on the quality of the product produced? Any and all input will LR> be appreciated. Feel free to reply to me privately if you prefer. LR> Langsley T Russell LR> Bulloved Bulldogs Just my proverbial 2 cents here Langsley. I have one such device, and built another one myself (one of the 3 electrode variety, another of the 9 electrode variety). While I have the greatest respect for Bruce Marx, and don't mean to put his products down, I will tell you my experiences since you have asked. In my own, single-blind, informal studies, the CS made by the "pulse phasic" process does work, but is very much inferior to the HVAC CS that I make myself. The response from the people who used it was very similar, being "maybe silver doesn't work on what I have". These SAME people had used my HVAC CS (which, by the way, I do NOT sell) in the past with astounding results. They had NO IDEA that I had changed processes. They thought the CS I provided was the exact same as every other time. It wasn't. Here is the basic idea of how it went. They took up to 5-6 times the amount of CS that would normally (when using my HVAC CS) relieve them of their affliction. They obtained very little, or no, benefit. They called me, asking for more CS, because "for some reason, it doesn't seem to be helping". One such individual had consumed 48 ounces of the "pulse phasic" CS in less than 24 hours. I became concerned that either 1 of 2 things could be going on. 1) Whatever their affliction was, it couldn't be helped by CS (which I thought to be unlikely). 2) That the "pulse-phasic" CS was, for some reason, less effective than the HVAC CS. I thought this to be the most likely. I told the people that I would resupply them, and to keep taking the CS. I did NOT tell them that their newer CS would be made by the HVAC process. The results were that their affliction vanished in short order, and with small doses, after using the HVAC CS. The above scenario has been repeated, more than 10 times, so that I could personally observe the results. Every time the results were the same. The above scenario has also raised may questions in my head. The biggest one of those is..... if it REALLY is the ionic silver (definition of ionic is monoatomic silver missing an electron, AG+), there should NOT have been such a difference in effectiveness between the two methods of production. Since both methods produce CS which is right around 80% ionic, they should have exhibited similar results. They didn't. Although the "pulse phasic" CS seemed to keep the afflictions from getting worse, it didn't, even after as much as a month of daily consumption (total consumption in that time period was approximately 3 gallons by one person), do anything apparent to make the affliction diminish or disappear. The HVAC CS, on the other hand, wiped out the affliction in very short order, using dosages of ~4 ounces a day. Most people were well again before they finished their first pint of the HVAC CS. Please note that ALL OF THE SUBJECTS had been to their doctor, and been diagnosed with something, such as strep throat, bronchitis, viral bronchitis, sinusitis, etc. Some had taken antibiotics for 3 weeks or more with little or no positive results. Some just outright refused to take antibiotics, opting for CS instead. Suffice it to say that, as far as the particle-vs-ion argument goes, I am of the belief that it is the particles. It is what my experience has shown me first-hand. All of the rhetoric in the world will not change my opinion at this time. I also believe that the particle size, and thus the surface area, are critical parameters as well. Anyone wishing to change my mind can totally forget about a war-of-words. It won't work. Until I see a highly ionic product outperform my HVAC CS, under the same circumstances (single-blind, using participants who have used my HVAC CS in the past), my mind is pretty much made up. To me, seeing is believing. Also note that I DO plan on testing some CS made by the HVAC ARC process with various volunteers this winter. But unless it proves itself superior to my current process, I personally will use what I have been for years. -- Best regards, Solar mailto:[email protected] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>

