Arthur Rambo wrote:
"Using the pwt meter, which I'm told will measure the conductiviy of the water 
by sensing particles in the water (correct me if I'm off on this, please), I 
find that my city tap  water measures 180.4, or roughly 120 parts per million. 
When run through the counter top filter, it reads 172.2 or roughly 118 ppm.  My 
CS measures 31.4 or roughly 18 ppm.  I tend to think that the metal in the tap 
water would be the larger problem."

Arthur, metal in tap water could mean, eg, calcium carbonate which is probably 
quite beneficial. The purported problem relates to silver compounds, and 
naturally there will be big differences between each of these.

Roesilver wrote:
"Silver chloride would qualify as a compound. I make HVAC CS. I did the 
experiment that was suggested at a web site, that being, putting some salt in 
the CS and I watched it turn a little milky. Putting salt in distilled water 
did not produce any milkyness. So even though I know that the CS I produce is a 
very effective product, I now know that a percentage of it is ionic and that 
ionic silver will certainly become silver chloride in my blood stream or 
stomach.  If I swish it around in my mouth, most of the ionic silver will go 
into my blood stream, become silver chloride in the blood and become a load on 
my kidnies.  Is this the load on the kidnies that eventually produces the renal 
failure he talks about? If I wolf it down, it will become silver chloride and 
most of that silver chloride will pass through my bowels because the molecules 
are mostly too large to go through the intestinal wall. Purchasing the high 
priced CS that has low ionic content and high particulate content, from what I 
understand, doesn't seem to produce any better results than the CS I now use.  
It just looks good on graph paper.  So for efficacy I can't really justify the 
extra expense. Does silver Chloride have any of the same anti bacterial 
qualities of particulate silver colloid?"


I personally brew LVDC CS (probably more accurately, ionic silver plus some 
colloid) with citric acid added in the hope of producing a more bioavailable 
complexed form that gets where it should - check 
http://www.feel21.com/ohr/vol6.html for my inspiration on that one. I'm not as 
sure as you about what happens to ionic silver absorbed via swilling in the 
mouth. Admittedly, converting to chloride is a reasonable assumption, but no 
one seems to really know, or to what extent. Swilling it has certainly been 
doing my long standing candida-type infection a lot of good. But I do worry 
about longer term consequences if accumulation in the kidneys is occuring. That 
certainly would be an argument in favour of "pure colloidal" product, since 
germicidal efficacy is not then the only consideration. As to whether the 
problem is clogging of the fine capillaries directly by silver chloride 
particles, or an inflammation reaction is at this point just speculation. In a 
day or two I should be able to post the JAMA study references, and let you 
judge for yourself. This thread started out on the wisdom of adding CS to 
juices, soups, sauces etc. It was pointed out that any ionic silver would 
certainly convert to chloride in that kind of salty environment. Silver 
chloride is just much less germicidal than ionic or particulate silver, so 
taking it straight at least enhances the chance of making it available in the 
body. Maybe a lister knows of a means of flushing out the kidneys  which might 
counter any problem?

regards, Kevin Nolan [email protected]