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From: Dave Sawatzky 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 3:10 PM
Subject: Any Info on This Generator?? (Sparton 9KV-30 HVAC)


Hi Langsley Russell

On Nov 9 you asked:

Does anybody on the list have any experience with the Spartan 9KV-30 CS 
generator made by Utopia Silver at http://www.utopiasilver.com/ ? It is an HVAC

Sorry to be so late in responding, I have been off the list for a while and am 
slow catching up.

I have used this generator for over a year now and have been producing an 
average of 16 gal. per month, and am very pleased with the product it produces.
I was dissapointed at first when it did not produce a 10 ppm product in 1 1/2 
hrs as per instructions, all I got was 3 ppm.

 I started doing a lot of experimenting with rod placement and spacing and 
found that I was getting a much stronger TE then I ever got with LVDC, but with 
very low ppm readings.  At the same time I began to learn about ionic silver 
and silver particles from Frank Keys web site. I sent a sample to Frank for 
testing and found that I could produce a product with 63% ionic silver and 37% 
particle, with particle size of 25 nm. I then discovered that I could also 
produce a very high ionic only product testing as high as 1200 ppm. Perfectly 
clear with no TE. I have settled on a process that runs for 10 hrs producing a 
very strong particle content, then a 1/2 hr run to top off the ionic to read 10 
to 12 ppm. According to my calculations based on previous samples tested by 
Frank, I believe that I am cosistantly producing a 75/25 % ratio with this set 
up. While the generator is somewhat slow, I like the flexability it gives me to 
adjust the ionic/particle ratio. I have not used any other HVAC generators, but 
from what I understand you cannot vary the ionic content or particle size on 
the other HVAC generators I have looked at.
I believe the product could be improved some more, especially in particle size. 
But I simply cannot afford to pay Frank,s prices for annalizing with a Canadian 
dollar only worth a little more than  half the American dollar.

I hope this still helps

Dave Sawatzky