Jason,
Thanks for setting me straight on the protein stabilizers. From what
you're saying it was not a good idea for me to suggest these are safe.
I'll hope that others know more about this as well. Would it be
reasonable to assume that some stabilizers are okay and others are not?
If so, which?
Reid

Jason said:
Reid:
I don't think everyone is in agreement that concentrated CS is an
"impossibility"...  I think people have misunderstood language.  A high
PPM
colloidal silver DOES agglomerate.  That doesn't mean that that it ALL
does,
this is simply an observation made by those who seek a high quality
product,
who have rejected high PPM silver because of the large particles.

If you dilute a silver product with large particles, the particles are
not
going to become "magically" smaller on their own.

Based on this, a 5 ppm silver product that was initially a 500 ppm would

only go one place in my household:  The garbage - unless I had an
external
use for it.

People are NOT referring to silver oxide production, when speaking of
agglomeration.  While it IS true that when the reaction speeds up, a
byproduct of this is the "sludge" AND "sparklies", this is a seperate
issue.

Where do you get the idea that protein "stabilizers" with silver are not

harmful?  You ought to take a look at some datasheets for mild silver
protein.  Also, this language use is difficult at best:  Where is the
line
drawn between a stabilizer and a compound, when a company is marketing a

product?  Why will they never disclose the formulations?  Why will NONE
of
these companies answer direct questions?

If you hadn't noticed I'm not pleased with these marketing companies.
They
are single-handedly jeopardizing the use of silver as a natural
supplement.
They are giving the FDA every reason to take further actions against all

silver products.

When you tell someone a stabilizer is safe, you are risking their health
and
well-being on very serious level.  You are giving them the impression
that
silver is not a toxic substance in the human body.  While your own
understanding may be great, theirs may not.  They just might see
something
like silver acetate, a "stabilized" silver product ( though of course
not a
protein )and assume it is safe to use.

If one wants to dilute and use silver proteins properly, then there
really
is no problem ( although I see no benefit ).  In fact, if you want to
dilute
and use cyanide in the same manner, there is no problem.  But to claim
that
cyanide is safe in the human body would be misleading!

I can make orange colloidal silver with the nine-volt battery method
easily.
  It just involves paying attention, holding the "silver rods" close
together, and pulling them out very often to clean.  You watch the
visible
silver between the "electrodes" carefully, and adjust the distance
between
the two.  You move the rods around the "water" to "manually" distribute
the
silver in the solution.  The end result is by no means a stable product,
and
I have no idea of the concentration.

Occasionally ( very occasionally ) I will make such a substance for
external
use.



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