Wish to thank everyone for their help, shortened my learning curve. Ken You answered a question before I asked.
(((((During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals or colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS stabilizes over night.)))) That happened and had me puzzled. Another puzzle, The over done batch had definite light brown color when I put into to 2 jars drained from tap on tea jar. They darkened also over night but one is much darker than the other. The silver must have settled out to some degree as one jar came from the bottom half and the other from top half. Would smaller particles do this also. Checking clear batch for TE I could not see any change top to bottom in jar after 2 days setting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 4:26 AM Subject: Re: CS>brewing ? > Sound like last batch was on "track" but could have run longer. > If the transformer setup controls current, the voltage will be lower as the > conductivity rises in the water once the system reaches it max current draw > setting of 1 ma. > 17 volts isn't much to start with so the beginning ramp up to the > controlled current setting [where the voltage starts to decrease] could > take a fair amount of time. > > That time follows the 'runaway' curve and can vary quite a bit...even by > hours...depending on water quality and temperature. Timing batches without > using current control and a consistant start point can be wildly inaccurate. > > Moniter the current and voltage. When it stabilizes at the max setting [1 > ma] and the voltage begins to drop...start timing at that point or moniter > the voltage and stop it when you reach something like 4, 5 or 6 > volts...whatever voltage makes CS that looks good to you. > Ion production rate [PPM per minute] is a linear function of time from the > time that the max set current is reached, on. > If current control is not used, ion production rate is something like an > exponential curve , going faster and faster. [runaway] > > Ionic silver is silver 'dissolved] in water, or, a solution. > Water has a saturation point after which ions will start to form crystals. > At that point, the TE will become more and more pronounced. The bubbler > should prevent those crystals from getting too big, too fast. > I'm not sure just what the saturation point is...it doesn't seem to be a > set quantity as both TE and conductivity can grow at the same time. But, > you'll mostly get ions in solution at first. > > During the next 24 hours, more dissolved ions will convert to crystals or > colloidal particles as well, so, the TE gets more pronounced as the CS > stabilizes over night. > > At 02:13 PM 1/19/02 -0700, you wrote: > >Tried my first CS makeing. Kens posts on color and current helped. Still > >need some expert opinion on result. > > > >Equipment is toy train speed control ( found in thrift store for $1.20) > >claims 16 volts DC but produces 17.6 at all speed settings. Controls current > >flow. Coins 3/4 way into water set at 1 inch for first batch 3ma in quart > >jar. 2 1/2 hours. Stirring with bubbler. Not perfectly clear with strong TE, > >definite taste. Some black particles in bottom of jar. > > > >Changed to gallon ice tea bottle, about 3/4 full, same settings, ran for 6 > >hours. got brown color, strong taste, strong TE. Lot of black clumps in > >bottom of jar. > > > >Read Kens post that 1 5/8" spacing and low current flow was the way. > >Increased coin spacing to about the 1 5/8" and set current to 1ma. Ran for 4 > >hours, clear with week TE and taste. 6 or 8 small black particles in bottom > >of jar. > > > >Current flow was stable once set, never varied with increase in silver. > >Seems that speed control gives constant current. > > > >My guess is first was close, second particles much to big and last is mostly > >ions. Is the ion one of any use. > > > >Welcome any comments. > >Ron > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > >
