Some interesting options there, Malcolm. 'Safe' electrolyzing using sheep intestine condoms is something I will look into - is Naturalamb readily available? As for unglazed plant pots; excuse the pun but it sounds a little, well, 'potty.' I mean, how small and skinny do they come? The smallest pot I have seen takes up an awful lot of space inside most folks typical CS brewing container. Close wrapping the cathode serves to restrict contact of Ag+ ions with the cathode, but also frees the remaining space for Ag+/colloid generation. Please indicate how you would arrange the pot.
regards, Kevin Nolan ----- Original Message ----- From: Malcolm Stebbins To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 6:49 PM Subject: Re: CS>'bagged' cathode Hi Kevin, something you might want to try; sounds indecent, but somebody's got to do it<g>. "Naturalamb" condoms are made from (ugh!) sheep intestine, and are permeable to a degree. They have been used successfully in electroplating experiments. Another option is unglazed plant pots, but you'll have to seal off the hole in the bottom - maybe silicone rubber? Have fun, Malcolm Kevin Nolan wrote: Hello all. Another report on trying to eliminate plate-out, inspired by a recent mailing to and from 'Ole Bob'. Some months ago I posted a speculation that wrapping a cathode in eg artificial chamois may dramatically reduce plate-out - because that would greatly reduce the amount of fresh fluid contacting the cathode surface. Since then Bob posted a comment about success using cotton bias tape wrapping - what is called 'bagging the electrode'. I have tried it using fairly thick cotton twill, wrapped twice around a stainless steel plate (40mm X 200mm section) and secured with small rubber bands. For everything else the same, current is reduced about 20% - from ~ 8.5mA to ~ 6.5mA owing to cotton wrap. The big improvement is a dramatic reduction in cathode plate-out, which is now just a thin, fairly adherent film that barely stains the cotton (only at the plate edges). No gunk fall out, no filtering, perfectly clear and sparkly free CS, with moderate levels of both tyndale and metallic taste. NOTE: This is using demineralised water to which citric acid was added, which dramatically boosts conductivity. It means the majority of charge carriers reaching the cathode and reducing there will be H+ ions, not Ag+. Not sure how effective wrapping would be using the traditional LVDC method - ie relying on residual impurities in DW to start things yields nearly all the positive ions in solution as Ag+. regards, Kevin Nolan