Thanks Marshall. Mind-blowing! Presumably if one masters this kind of 'mind
powers' thing then direct healing without the need for CS or anything else
should be possible? To what extent though is it learnable as opposed to
inate gift?

Kevin Nolan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Schauberger (#187)


> Well, all the things I tried were supposedly things to "energize water".
The
> shifts were moderate, and interestingly essentially 0 in the visible
range,
> making it impossible for the human eye to see.  I also had some water from
> healing springs, but could not test it because there was no control to
compare
> against.  If I remember right, for some things it was more pronounced in
the uv,
> and others it was more pronounced in the ir.  The strange thing was that
each
> had their own signature, you could run the test as many times as you
wanted, and
> would get the same results each time, but everything used was different.
The
> only exception to this was we had a group of people in who attempted to
send
> healing energies into the water.  Almost 100% showed some effect, and the
Reiki
> masters and Christian healers produced the biggest effect.  But the effect
was
> the same for all of them, just a difference in the strength of the
response.
>
> One interesting thing that happened was that the tests were done with the
water
> in paper cups for the "energizing".  One time I made the mistake of using
> healing energy on the water when it was in the little quartz bottle the
scanning
> spectrometer uses.  There are two of them, and they are perfectly matched.
> Well, the energy somehow affected the bottle so that it no longer matched
the
> other one.  It basically made the machine useless, since you have to run a
> control with it.  The company wanted several hundred dollars if I remember
right
> for another pair of them.  I wanted them to replace them on warrantee, but
they
> insisted that I had mishandled them somehow, exposed it to extremely high
heat,
> or etched it with hydrofluoric acid or something to cause the change.
They flat
> didn't believe me when I told them all I did was send a thought form to it
and
> the water in it.  In fact he had no idea what I was talking about.
>
> Anyway, I know a reiki master, who knows how to handle these energies
quite
> well. He said he thought he could probably clear it.  So he came over and
> holding the glass bottle, did a kind of snort, and handed it back saying
it
> should be cleared now.  I ran the bottles against each other again, and
voila
> they matched again.
>
> Marshall
>
> Kevin Nolan wrote:
>
> > Interesting, Marshall. I was half expecting you might respond. Do you
have a
> > theory as to cause and effect? Would you describe the shifts in a/s as
weak,
> > moderate, strong? More pronounced in the uv or ir (interesting that
optical
> > region not much effected)? Could you tell us what specific agency
produced
> > the greatest influence? Finally, have you been able to translate any of
> > these effects into a health benefit regime - ie energized water?
Questions,
> > questions.
> >
> > regards, Kevin Nolan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 3:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Schauberger (#187)
> >
> > > Not using the frozen method.  But I have found duplicable difference
in
> > the
> > > absorption spectrum of water, primarily in the uv and ir region, when
> > water has
> > > been exposed to thoughts, prayer, healing energies, and a number of
> > "devices"
> > > such as dolphin rings.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > > Kevin Nolan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reference to Emoto's apparent proofs of bizarre links between
water's
> > frozen
> > > > structure and eg, music, words, thoughts, even typed messages placed
on
> > a
> > > > bottle, have appeared on this list before. What I have not seen is
> > > > duplication by anyone else. Is there anyone on this list who has
> > attempted
> > > > to do just that? If so, please chime up and let us know what you
found!
> > > >
> > > > regards, Kevin Nolan
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:19 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Schauberger (#187)
> > > >
> > > > >                     Hello JR,
> > > > >                     Thank you for the reference to Mr. Emoto.  We
have
> > one
> > > > > principal investigator who is quite familiar with his work.  While
we
> > have
> > > > > not funded any consequential research effort in this field.....it
is,
> > > > indeed,
> > > > > fascinating and indicates to be of genuine value both in the field
of
> > > > general
> > > > > knowledge and----more specifically, the environs of
> > physical/psychological
> > > > > health.
> > > > >                         Thank you again for sharing your
information.
> > > > >                                     Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
> > > > >
> > > > > [email protected] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brooks writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...Next, we were especially intrigued at  prospects of being
able
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > to generate an actual change in structural form...as well as
the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > bioactivity of water.  We were able, under scanning electron
> > > > microscopy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > examination, to determine that---indeed---such modifications
were
> > > > quite
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > easily achieveable...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > For photographic evidence of water's mutability due to sound,
words,
> > > > > > music and prayer:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > These slides are the work of Japanese researcher Mr. Masaru
Emoto,
> > > > > > > from his book "Messages from Water."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.jonathangoldman.com/research/water.asp
> > > > > > jr
> > > > > >
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