Yes, and maybe because you're not a fool at all, and use aseptic (how close is aseptic to antiseptic, and whose aseptic are we discussing, a key point.) Also maybe you're just not exposed to a wide enough range of bugs in your environment, or you're just too damn healthy anyhow, or any of a host of other reasons including plain ol' blessed luck. I don't want to contradict your own experience, or that of others, who have been successful. What I do want to do is to contradict your use of absolutes in stating your experiences in this experimental field. That might lead someone with a weaker immune system, a different physiology, stranger, more resistant, more cryptic, or God knows what-all bugs, or a different CS generator into assuming that everything will be just fine no matter what they do because CS is all-powerful, not to mention extremely intelligent. It ain't necessarily so. Thassall, Malcolm
Connie wrote: > Well Malcolm, I am a fool (though not dead), I self infused CS through > my PIC line this winter, I never sterilize my CS containers....I did > use aseptic technique as much as possible to do the infusion. > Maybe I am not dead because my silvergen produced CS is so excellent? > > :^) > Connie > > > From: Malcolm Stebbins <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 14:04:25 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CS>To Ronen re CS generator > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:24:48 -0800 > > Hi Connie, two comments on your post: > First, whether sterility is or is not necessary would depend > on too many factors; the notion that ANY CS made by Anyone > with Any method at Any concentration is so effective a > killer of Any pathogen that you're guaranteed to be safe for > Any application goes way too far, and I expect you didn't > mean that. But that is what you emphasized with > "NOTHING.....!!!!!" > Second, anyone who undertook I.V. injection or other direct > blood or lymph introduction of CS from any source without > proper sterile precautions is somewhere between a fool and > dead. > Malcolm > > Connie wrote: > > Actually, sterility is no necessary!! > Remember NOTHING grows in the presence of > silver!!!!! > No need to increase your workload by sterilizing > things first!!! The CS will take care of that for > you!! > Simple rinsing with DW is all that is necessary. > > > > > From: Nicola Kay <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 01:21:33 -0800 > To: [email protected] > Subject: CS>To Ronen re CS generator > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 02:20:20 > -0800 > > Hi Ronen, > > I am new to all this but I have made > what might be the simplest of all > generators. The pros here will > hopefully correct any erroneous advice > and add their knowledge to what Im > telling you. > > If you have an AC/DC adaptor (I used one > from a no longer functional cordless > phone - has 24 volt output), just cut > the jack end off, separate the wires and > trim them back so you can wrap them > around small alligator clips (cost > about 25 cents). IF you dont have an > AC/DC adaptor, you might find one at a > garage sale or 2nd hand store for 50 > cents or more (some people give them > away as useless). Get some .999 silver > (you can get it at ebay or perhaps from > a local store, jeweller) or there are > people on this list who sell it very > cheaply. Shouldnt cost more than $5 or > so to get started. > > You have to buy distilled water which is > no more than a couple of dollars from > your local supermarket or drugstore. > Then sterilize a glass jar of any size > (I use a 2 cup canning jar) and create a > cover or lid for it that will > accommodate the silver wire. You can > also insert an air hose (air pumps for > aquariums are only a few dollars - often > you can find them at 2nd hand stores for > around $1) to help keep the wires from > producing black gunk in the water when > the CS is being made. > > There are many ways to create a cover > but heres what I did (creativity is the > key here): > I made a cover for my jar from an > oversize plastic peanut butter jar lid. > This lid is larger than my canning jar > and therefore just sits on top of the > jar. I hammered a large nail through > the lid to run the air hose through, and > then made a couple of small holes by > hammering small nails through two > opposite edges of the lid so they fit > just inside the jar - the small nails > are the size of the silver wire. Then > you can lay the alligator clips holding > the silver wire on top of the lid so the > wire runs down into the water. You > should sterilize all tools and > components by pouring boiling water to > cover the items before putting anything > into the distilled water. This includes > the cover and jar and all bits and > pieces being used to produce your CS. > > My CS startup cost was $2: I had the > AC/DC adaptor, my friend gave me the two > pieces of silver wire and the alligator > clips, I already had an aquarium pump > and hose (which I sterilized), only had > to buy the distilled water. > > Good luck and be creative! Just make > sure everything is sterile before using. > > > >
