list,
I think a little experimentation may be helpful.  If one were to use a mineral 
like Magnesium it might replace or absorb the silver.  I am going to mix some 
magnesium with some CS see what happens then filter it through a coffee filter 
and see if I have any silver left in the resulting water by using a lazer.  I 
might just get gunk but it is a start.  Calcium may be my next trial.  and so 
on. Marlene  PS please I have made  milky silver with Ascorbic Acid is it CS or 
useable.  Will someone give me an answer?
Thank you Marlene
  
----- Original Message -----
From: M. G. Devour
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>Listowner comments... please read
  
Dear group,

Janis has come back to us to ask if we have any information about
chelation, or anything else that might be able to help a mild case of
argyria.

Donna Earnest stopped using silver and left the list over a year ago
after she also was told she "looked grey."

Both took a WaterOz silver product of high concentration and suspected
of containing silver salts.

At the time, WaterOz was a brand of silver preparation that a number
of our members were reporting was quite effective. Perhaps Janis and
Donna, themselves, were among those recommending it.

Now we have not one case, but two, of people turning grey.

This is not the time, ladies and gentlemen, to stick our heads in the
sand. If the mission of the Silver List community is really to ...

"...welcome both newcomers and experienced users who want to learn
about Colloidal Silver," and to, "...share the most fair, unbiased,
and good quality information we can, freely, without regard to ego or
self interest..."

... then we need to take Janis seriously and treat her respectfully.

I believe that Janis has answered adequately in her recent post the
question "How much did she take?" If she "...purchased a total of 9
gallons of WaterOz and sold 3 to friends and gave some away and still
have 1 partial one left sitting..."  then that certainly sets the upper
bounds for the answer.

Any mathematical imprecision in her answers, including messages from
many months ago, can be excused as the rough approximations that they
were intended to be.

Although we would *like* to have an ironclad medical diagnosis of
Argyria, complete with skin biopsy and analysis, I think there's plenty
enough to go on without it. If she wants to sacrifice a little flesh to
our curiosity, I would be grateful as hell. If not, I would certainly
understand, wouldn't you?

Janis is handling her situation better than any of us has a right to
expect. She's taking full responsibility for her actions and remaining
hopeful:

"I have to admit I should have heeded the words of someone saying that
high parts per million and taking ionic silver wasn't a good idea.  I
should have stayed with the colloidal silver I made and knew exactly
what went into it..."

"I took the WaterOz silver in fairly large amounts and I really think
that is what has caused this.  I knew from all the talk that there was a
possibility of this happening so I only blame myself and no one else."

"When I had Lyme I held out ... hope that I would get better although
many told me I wouldn't. Just like now I am holding out hope I will
find either something to make it better or start telling people to Kiss
my A## when they say I look grey.  LOL "

That's an attitude I can work with, folks. Janis, please continue to
be patient with us.

I want to hear again of any ideas you may have on ways to help
eliminate argyria. We've got a chance to learn something here, and a
friend who is asking for our help. Let's give it.

Marshall, what was that oral chelation program you used? I remember
reading that EDTA works best on lead, and that there was another
chelating agent that works better for Mercury. Is there one for silver?

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                        ]
[Speaking only for myself...               ]


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