Hello Frank,
I remember you making just that point back during a
rather unfriendly debate between yourself and another former lister. Would
not dispute your conclusions for the particular scenario of a solution of
ionic silver that dries relatively quickly on the skin. However in most
realistic cases where a wound or eruption or rash etc was being treated
something like a band-aid or cotton pad or similar soaked in CS would be
applied. Another lister has recently being asking about a base to which CS
can be added to make a salve. In all these cases the result is to greatly
extend the 'wet period' - surely allowing plenty of time for the ionic form
to do the job. I believe you have acknowledged that in petri dish
environments at least, the ionic form is far more effective than the
colloidal form at eliminating most if not all microbes. Your argument was I
think that when ingested the ionic form converts to chloride in the blood,
thus being rendered ineffective compared to the colloid. Have no interest in
taking sides in the ongoing "ions vs particles" debate, and was merely
presenting what I believed was a majority opinion amongst those considered
knowledgeable.
Kevin Nolan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Key" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:42 AM
Subject: CS>Topical use: Colloidal vs silver ions
> Kevin Nolan wrote:
>
> > General consensus though is that the ionic form works best for external
> use while the colloidal form
> > probably survives better in the internal environment to 'do the job'.
>
> For topical use it is important to understand what happens when the water
> evaporates from the ionic silver solution vs the colloid.
>
> When the water is evaporated from an ionic silver solution this is what
> happens:
>
> Silver ions in a solution cannot exist without water, so when the water is
> evaporated the silver ions (cations) must combine with an available anion
to
> form a compound. The predominant anions present in a silver colloid
solution
> are hydroxide and carbonate. The compounds thus formed are silver
hydroxide
> and silver carbonate. Silver hydroxide is unstable and reduces to silver
> oxide and hydrogen. The silver carbonate will reduce to silver oxide and
> carbon dioxide. The final compound that remains is silver oxide.
>
> For topical use that means that the skin is left with a thin film of
silver
> oxide which is far less effective as a gemacide than either the ionic
silver
> solution or metallic silver.
>
> When the water is evaporated from a true silver colloid this is what
> happens:
>
> Since a silver colloid is metallic silver particles in water, when the
water
> is evaporated, what is left is a thin film of metallic silver. The
metallic
> silver film that remains continues to exhibit the germicidal properties of
> silver and will kill pathogens that come in contact with it.
>
> So I would take issue with the initial statement that ionic silver is
better
> for topical uses since a metallic silver film is a far better germicide
than
> a silver oxide film.
>
> frank key
> www.PurestColloids.com
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