The info was from a summation in Lloyd Pies book.
He provides references but no specific connections to particular
references, so, I can't tell exactly where he got it.
A little more specifically, but short of a research paper, on page 289
there is mention of a mitochondrial DNA trace in a search for the source of
Indian, African, European and Near Eastern cattle, again, no direct
linkage to a specific source for that study other than a bibiliography in
the book but they found a 'sudden' emergence of those cattle strains [I
assume the point being that they couldn't verify via DNA what those strains
emerged from]
By what I 'think' I understand below, it would seen that no back crossing
or viable offspring produced by nature would seem to verify intelligent
interference, and that we have not been able to do it indicates that it
wasn't us that did. [if it happened]
Sorry, I should have said "I heard/read" that such and such was the case
and there is as much doubt as to that stories validity as there is about
the theory of evolution, but it seems to be more credible and reasonable
and worth looking into further.
I suppose one must be as wary of the 'fringe' as one is of the 'official'
view even if the official view is way full of holes and the fringe seems to
make more sense.
Ken
At 05:30 PM 4/24/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi, I don't believe this is so; could you provide some references to back it
>up? I'm aware that we share a considerable amount of genetic material from
>earlier life forms, such as fungi (see Stamets, Growing Gourmet and Medicinal
>Mushrooms 3rd ed. Ten Speed Press), but even if you count the universal
>presence of 'inactive' or 'non-significant' segments of dna in the genomes,
>I've read no evidence of inter-kingdom "back-crossing"of genetic material
>producing a viable line of offspring. Viri can transfer genetic material to
>the cells of host species, and the infected host may continue to live, and
even
>thrive, but the attempt to transfer e.g., immunity to successive generations
>by such techniques was not successful last time I looked. You might be
>interested in some of the work done along this line for victims of cystic
>fibrosis.
>Thanks for whatever material you can provide;
>Malcolm
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>> Mitochondrial DNA tracing indicates that most of the foods and
>> domesticated animals we use today were genetically modified at some time in
>> the distant past. {not just cross bred or hybridized}
>> Ken
>>
>> At 08:52 PM 4/23/02 +1000, you wrote:
>> >I don't like extreme responses to anything unless hard evidence justifies
>> >it. Are you sure ALL GM foods are dangerous?
>> >
>> >Kevin Nolan
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
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>> >> TWO GENETIC ENGINEERING ACTION ALERTS
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>> >>
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