Hi Russ, I listened to the Hinkson audio. It confirmed my opinion that the guy is a menace to society. His grasp of organic and inorganic chemistry seems non-existent. I have debated the question of mineral toxicity and bio-availability with him before and his views are inconsistent and contrary to published research. This guy recommends treating mineral toxicity with more of the same mineral! He talks about mineral compounds like the citrates, carbonates, malates etc. and states that these are not the same a the metal ion, and are absorbed as the compound whereupon they cause health problems. He doesn't seem to realise that these compounds are ionised in the stomach to form ions and are thus absorbed, and that undissolved compounds are not absorbed at all and are excreted. He states that colloids and compounds that are to big to be used by the body clog up the arteries and so on and cause disease, failing to realise that compounds and particles to big to be used cannot enter the body in the first place. I am just dumbfounded by the statement, using mad cow disease as his justification, that because pig protein is the closest to human protein that eating pig flesh is the cause of many diseases! My advice...disregard David Hinkson and find a more reliable source of information.
It is pretty much established that minerals can only enter the body as ions. There are three possible pathways. The first is through pores by osmotic pressure. The second is by attaching to special molecules and being dragged into the cell. The third, by attaching to transporting molecules (chelation) allowing passage across the cell membrane. Calcium uses all three methods, but by far the greatest amount is by the second method, which is controlled by the amount of vitamin D which is attached to the vitamin D receptors found in the cells of the intestinal wall. Vitamin D is the most important regulator of calcium absorption and distribution, and hence is most important in the whole realm of bodily function, health and disease. The most important factor in mineral absorption is its ability to be ionised. Calcium citrate is absorbed at about three times the rate of calcium carbonate, but then one can dissolve calcium carbonate in vinegar or malic acid (apple juice) almost completely. Be interesting to see the reply you get from bio-chemist. regards Ivan. Robert Barefoot: site: http://www.cureamerica.net email: mailto:[email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Russ Rosser [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2002 5:41 a.m. > To: *Silver-List* > Subject: Re: CS>Ivan the Terrible... > > > Ivan, et al-- > > I had couldn't find contact info for Dr. Barefoot, so I emailed the > following question to a prof. with PhD's in nutrition science and > biochemistry. ANY INSIGHTS INTO THIS ISSUE ARE WELCOME...please! > - - - - - - - - > Greetings-- > > I sought you out because of your credentials, in hopes of resolving > conflicting claims among various nutritional companies > regarding dietary > minerals. I appreciate how busy you must be, but my need > of objective input > is acute! > > A certain Dr. Barefoot claims 'miraculous' cures from a > calcium supplement > made from white Okinawan sand, which consists of natually > pulverized coral, > which is mostly calcium carbonate. Any acid should drive > CO2 off from > CaCO3, leaving an ionic solution of calcium. In an interview > (http://www.coral-calcium-one.com/dr__barefoot_interview.htm > ), Dr. Barefoot > seems to mention only two advantages of the liquid "Coral > Calcium" product > over the *chalk* found in Tums: (1) it is a solution of > Ca++ ions that's > pre-digested (acid-treated, requiring no additional > hydrochloric acid from > the stomach), and (2) it contains many other trace minerals > left by the > microbial activity of the coral colony in seawater. > > In additional , Dave Hinkson also makes some interesting points > (http://www.asnutrition.com/zim_water_oz.asp -- click the > "Listen" button; > ~4 min.) in favor of ionic mineral solutions, e.g., calcium > (http://www.kornax.com/WaterOz_Liquid_Minerals_Supplements.htm). > > On the other hand, many manufacturers claim that "chelated" > (protein-enveloped?) minerals, the form assimilated by > plants, are the most > "bioavailable." Some say the body recognizes *calcuim > orotate* most readily > as a chelated, or "food-state" form. > > So...are minerals in ionic solution best absorbed and > utilized by the > various cells?--i.e., isn't the purpose of human digestion > to break chemical > bonds into mineral ions, anyway?--or must minerals be > combined with protiens > to be usable? Or, are both states, depending on the > metabolic process > involved? Or, is it that minerals are ultimately used in > ionic from, but > chelation were required as a delivery vehicle, to allow the > mineral ions to > reach the metabolic site without reacting prematurely with > other substances? > > With respect to broad-spectrum, trace mineral supplements, > there seem to be > three basic choices depending on the correct answer: (1) > The most generic > type of mineral pills provides *chemical compounds* like > calcium citrate, > chromium picolinate, copper gluconate and ferrous fumerate > (even IRON OXIDE > has been marketed as a dietary iron supplement). (2) On > the other hand, if > *ionic solutions* are best, then "Sea Minerals" (www.seamineral.com) > consists of concentrated sea water with 95% of the NaCl > removed, an ionic > solution of all the geological minerals (and chloride ions). (3) > Alternatively, if the "food-state' or "chelated" form is > best, then "Body > Balance" > (http://lifeforce-intl.com/USA/products/body_balance.asp) contains > most of the sea minerals in the naturally occurring form of > *seaweed juice*. > > Thanks profusely for your time! > > --Russ Rosser > 256-546-5945 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
