But silver chloride and mild silver protein are not true collodial silver, correct?
----- Original Message ----- From: "SilverMedicine.org" <silvermedic...@silvermedicine.org> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 12:24 PM Subject: Re: CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS > Bill: > > I've corresponded with three individuals over the last year who have > developed Argyria, and I'm aware of two other cases. > > The two other cases were caused by Mild Silver Protein. One was caused by > the mass consumption of poorly made silver chloride for five years daily. > One actually posted to the list earlier this year, and the mild Argyria was > caused by Water Oz. The third was also caused by consuming Mild Silver > Protein. > > Not everyone, apparently, is at the same level of risk for Argyria. > > I don't consider ten drops of CS excessive use, even undiluted. The > individual whom developed severe Argyria consumed either eight or sixteen > ounces of CS daily, religously, for five years. > > Those who consume bentonite regularly will likely have a metabolism that is > more capable of processing any number of toxic substances used in the body; > the body's elimination system is well cared for with such a habit, and liver > functions are greatly supported. > > Kind Regards, > > Jason > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Missett" <miss...@prodigy.net.mx> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:02 AM > Subject: Re: CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS > > > > There seems to be a major shift in philosophy developing here. Until this > > discussion began, the dominant Silver List thought was that CS could NOT > > cause arygria. Now we are hearing that high strength CS CAN cause > argyria. > > Is there any evidence to support this contention? > > > > I have been consuming Microdyn CS, whatever its strength is, for six > years, > > at times heavily, straight out of the bottle into my mouth. > > > > During a bout of Australian flu three years ago, I drank 10 drops of > > Microdyn every hour, right out of the bottle, for three straight days. > > (There were elderly people dying in NYC from that flu, and I didn't want > to > > be one of them.) > > > > Additionally, my drinking water is a prepared mix of sea salt, bentonite > > clay and Microdyn, which I consume daily. > > > > I have never had any adverse reactions to this practice, and consider > > Microdyn safe for consumption undiluted. > > > > If I turn blue, I'll let you know. So far the only part of me that's blue > is > > my eyes. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Reid Harvey" <pott...@wlink.com.np> > > To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com> > > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2002 8:55 PM > > Subject: CS>reply from a company selling 500ppm CS > > > > > > > Dear Jason, > > > Thanks for your very thoughtful message. I can see your point that it > > > would be best for concentrated CS to be administered by a doctor. But > > > how ironic that the vast majority of otherwise-reliable, western > > > educated doctors would appear to tend not to accept the validity of CS, > > > also the victims of the dis-information. > > > > > > You asked about the possibility of my having a comparison done on the > > > high ppm CS I make, to see how effective it really is, and I will hope > > > to do that at some point in the future. But at present I use this CS > > > primarily to saturate ceramic candle filters, all of which have tested > > > 100% removal of fecal coliforms. I use the high ppm secondarily for > > > various treatments on my family while traveling, 'where there is no > > > doctor.' > > > > > > For example, my wife Catherine had a very nasty bout of strep throat > > > while we were in a Nepali game park, far from any clinic. She had had > > > this kind of severe strep several times before, only going to the doctor > > > after it hit her like a ton of bricks, and each time she'd go on > > > antibiotics and be laid up in bed for nearly a week. While in the game > > > park, when seh finally admitted that it was severe strep (her throat > > > red) we put her on a careful regime of the labelled-3200ppm Microdyn, > > > diluted to ~20ppm, a 200ml. glass every four hours. By the second glass > > > she was already feeling better and no further bed rest was indicated, so > > > she didn't miss out on any of the fun activities of the family. (We > > > subsequently rode an elephant out to a place where we could watch > > > rhinos.) > > > > > > It would be interesting to know how Mexicans fare at the business of > > > self treatment with Microdyn. I suppose I have not tuned in sooner to > > > your concern about improper dosage simply because, CS in any shape or > > > form is considered improper by most doctors, misquided as their > > > viewpoint may be. So it may appear that the laymen need to hazard their > > > own dosing, dependent on their own good instincts in seeking proper > > > advice. Of course your concern about a doctor's supervision would > > > extend to many kinds of remedies and not only those of CS. But what > > > with lack of medical facilites, educated people in third world countries > > > have to make do. For example, peace corps doctors around the world tend > > > to warn their volunteers about the hazards of self prescription/ self > > > dosage. Then they give the volunteers prescription drugs, like > > > antibiotics, prior to their going to their various postings, usually > > > remote. > > > > > > So I may see your point about unethical sales of high ppm in the U.S., > > > for example. But given the climate in third world countries, where self > > > dosing is de rigeur, I think the ethical aspects get thrown out the > > > window. In a fair and just world your wisdom would perhaps prevail. > > > Reid > > > > > > Jason said, > > > Reid: > > > > > > My greatest concern with the high PPM solutions is misuse. You'll note > > > that > > > in a previous message, the original company that manufactured what was > > > likely MSP only sold the product to doctors... That this doctor then > > > decided to retail it to others is besides the point! > > > > > > There are reasons for this. I consider companies that only sell these > > > high > > > PPM products to doctors ethical companies. I consider companies that do > > > > > > not, unethical, in that all the companies ( all that I have been able to > > > > > > find with similiar products ) do not claim that there is no risk to use. > > > > > > The fact of the matter is, there is no risk to use, provided that the > > > instructions on the label are followed. > > > > > > Judging from the emails I've received over the last two years, there are > > > > > > many people out there using high PPM MSP as if it were electro-colloidal > > > > > > silver; undiluted, and taking amounts that certainly do produce a > > > considerable risk, even if only a cosmetic one. > > > > > > I'm very certain that silver citrate is a bit different than many of the > > > > > > products out there, including the one in a recent post... But the > > > statement > > > that the "colloidal silver" was effective at 250 PPM + is frightening. > > > I'm > > > almost willing to bet that either someone didn't do the testing > > > correctly, > > > or that someone crossed their information somewhere. > > > > > > I certainly understand your point. If I were in a third world country > > > without access to distilled water, I wouldn't hesitate to use what was > > > at my > > > disposal, including tap water if necessary. > > > > > > Have you considered having a comparison done on your product, to see how > > > > > > effective it really is ( once diluted to useable )? > > > > > > That might be revealing, and might either put your mind at ease, or give > > > you > > > something more to shoot for... > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > PS: Yes, I certainly agree and know that high concentrations of CS can > > > be > > > made, but it is good to keep in mind that the nature of the products > > > with > > > high PPM are different! > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
