What was the lighting source in the room when he was reported "Blue-gray"? Could it have been fluorescents? Was there camera lighting? Rare these days with electronic imaging, but it is not uncommon to use blue filters over incandescent to balance any window sunlight with the artificial lights. More common with film than video, but a possibility to consider. Any subject predominately lighted that way would appear blue in relation to warmer incandescent artificial light sources.
The "blue" image I saw clearly indicated manipulation; argyria does not produce a uniform and even blue cast, but is splotchy. James-Osbourne: Holmes -----Original Message----- From: Bill Missett [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 5:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Re: Tom Kotynski - Thanks Bill Reid: I don't believe Kotyski ever said that Jones "stumbled" --- (I may stand corrected on this, since I don't have the followup column to refer to) -- but rather he said this: "Anyway, when Jones took the platform it was apparent that something was wrong with him. I could hear people in the audience buzzing about it. He looked blue-gray. When standing near any of the other candidates his coloring disorder was even more pronounced. Many folks wondered if he might have circulatory problems serious enough that he might keel over during the debate." This was stated in his letter to me, responding to our questions, not in his column, which doesn't contain the detail he provides in his letter. This is audience speculation he is reporting, but I found no reference to stumbling in his letter or in the column itself: "Jones has a startling bluish-gray complexion that had folks wondering out > loud about his health. I wondered if his circulation might have been cut off and feared he might have a heart attack right there. > > "I'm healthy," Jones assured me after the gathering." More audience response being reported. I don't know where the "stumble" part comes in. I don't believe it was in the followup column, because that dealt primarily with the response to the first column. And Kotynski -- who saw the man eye to eye -- said he definitely looked blue/gray. Just for the record. Apology? You decide. However, some other points rang true. Namaskara, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Harvey" <[email protected]> To: "silver list" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:34 PM Subject: CS>Re: Tom Kotynski - Thanks Bill > Bill, > You being the point person with the reporters I'm not going to write to > them. To me there are still lingering questions about just what > happened when the various candidates appeared. But *I think it's > important for the followup story to note* that if Stan Jones appeared to > Tom Kotynski and others as if he was about to fall down, or have a heart > attack, this was probably not due to the silver-compound-brew he'd been > drinking. As Kotynski must know by now, what Stan was drinking was not > colloidal silver, Ag+. It's unfortunate that Kotynski did make some > very uncharitable and untrue remarks about CS and CS enthusiasts, and at > the event, in his thinking he may have linked the problem of blue skin > with some health problem, such as the candidate's stumbling, > about-to-have-a-heart-attack, etc. > > (On the other hand there's been some information on the list lately > about the relative toxicity of various silver compounds, that AgNO3, for > example is far worse than others. But some are saying the nitrate is > not so likely in Stan's brew, and just what sort of other malady could > be coming from such compounds?) > > At that appearance, with respect to the falling down or > about-to-have-heart-attack I would imagine predominantly *one* of > several possibilities: > > 1. Stan Jones may have some entirely different health problem that we > could not know about. This caused him to stumble. > 2. His blue gray appearance may have induced even the most objective in > that audience to attach great significance to Stan's every move. So a > slight wobble in the knee would become a stumble. > 3. The poor guy was stumbling because he was in a fish bowl. > > It's been a little confusing that subsequent to the story Stan Jones did > tell others on the list that his appearance is quite normal and the > photos were doctored. Could it be that he has a normal kind of > neurosis? Like 'I'm okay, you're okay.' Then there is the notion that > other news media that picked up the original story went on to doctor the > pictures. Or maybe they didn't like the colors with which their > particular press was inking. So in the end it could be true that Stan > is blue *and* the picture's colors were altered. > > I am imagining that when all is said and done, whether there may be 'an > investigation' by news media, medical professionals or some combination > thereof (more usual) that in a funny sort of way Stan Jones's case could > provide some useful indication that ionic silver is harmless. In a fair > and just world of objective editors, objective reporters, objective > press operators and objective readers this would be what would pull the > rug out from under the 'argument' of the CS detractors, but now I'm in > fairy land. > > Will somebody tell me why I feel the need to apologize for this > message? Suddenly what's going on is all too mind boggling. > Reid, yearning for the bygone days of black and white photography > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
