I totally agree with a lot of your statements.  I am sure cases are caused
by Mycoplasma.  But there are 900,000 people out there with Celiac Sprue in
America.  Which at are a high risk of coming down with Lupus or MS from the
bread allergy.  Thus, a true auto-immune, genetic disease.  Which CS will do
jack squat for.

I am not trying to downplay your theroy, or CS.  But not _all_ cases of MS
or CFS are caused by Mycoplasma, Lyme or HIV.

----- Original Message -----
From: "MARIANO DELISE" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?


> All I can tell you is mycoplasma is a very new word even to doctors.  Many
> have not even heard of it yet.  I have two people with fibrmyalgia, two
with
> chroans, two with lupus,  one with chronic fatigue syndrom, eleven with
MS,
> one with interstitial cyctitis one with shingles.  These are all auto
immune
> diseases.  They are all drinking CS and everyone of them is in remission.
>     The very simple way this was explained to me is that we all have
> mycoplasma on our bodies.  They are basically harmless until we have a
> stress of stome sort in our lives.  The explaination that our bodies
attach
> them selves for no reason has never made sense to me.  Millions of
perfectly
> created bodies just turn on the owner for no reason??????Please!!!!!  What
I
> undersand (I have no medical background what so ever)  the mycoplasma
> (myco-----extremely tiny + plasma----no cell wall)  invade your cell
during
> a stress.  The mycoplasma hides in your cell, takes the shape of your
cell,
> feeds off of your cell.   Your immune system knows that there is a
pathogen
> in your body and attacks.........but since the pathogen is so well hidden
in
> your very own cell, it cannot be found by your immnue system.  Therefore,
it
> attacks,but for a very good reason.  There is something there it cannot
> find.   Obviously, what ever cell it has invaded is the disease you will
> get.  CS very slowly and very subtly finds these mycoplasma and suffocates
> them.
>     I realize this is an over simplified explanation, but that is the only
> thing my simple uneducated mind can understand.
> Nancy
>  Original Message -----
> From: "C Creel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:26 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Has anyone had success with CS and LUPUS?
>
>
> > Dear Nancy,
> >
> > You said:
> >
> > <<Check out mycoplasmas - Stealth Pathogens at
www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm
> > it's quite an eye opener.>>
> >
> >
> >
> > **    Have you read the articles from the citations?  I've read twelve
of
> > them.
> > They don't support what this page is saying.   Most of them are very
> careful
> > to
> > say that mycoplasma is a co-factor but no causal relationship is
evident.
> >
> >
> >    I'm puzzled as to how you can make a claim that mycoplasma is at the
> > root of CFS when statistics show that mycoplasma is present in only
30-35%
> > of people with CFS.
> >
> >   This is from www.rain-tree.com/myco.htm:
> >
> > "This allergic type of inflammation often results in heated, swollen,
and
> > painful inflamed tissues, like those found in rheumatoid diseases,
> > fibromyalgia and many other autoimmune disorders like lupus and MS,
> Crohn's
> > and others."
> >
> >
> >    **  This type of writing is misleading.  It causes people to draw
> > incorrect
> > conclusions.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Catherine
> >
> >
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