Hi Bob,

  > Re: CS>Re: Re: CS>RE: Current limitation Please check my math
  > From: Robert Berger
  > Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:39:26

  > Hi Mike,

  > A clever solution to the problem of EIS power supplies.

  > I have  a  few 330 v c supplies here to check with  my  wide anode
  > system.

  > I believe that Trem is working on a system as a future sales item.

  > I will look into the NO3 and NO levels.

  > "Ole Bob"

  330 VOLTS? That should get the electrons moving smartly.

  It should  also get UL's attention. They are probably  too  young to
  have worked on old vacuum tube radios, and never felt the  snap when
  your finger brushed against the B+ supply voltage. It helped develop
  quick reflexes:)

  I'd be very interested in the figures you come up with on NO3 and NO
  levels. Just for reference, here's your post from last March on this
  issue:

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  http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m56865.html

  CS>NO3 and NO Warning
  From: Robert Berger
  Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:38:30

  Listen-up CS'ers,

  I just received two samples of CS made with 90 volts DC. I would not
  call this LVDC but rather MVDC, and they both had serious problems.

  The CS  was crystal clear, one with a very weak T.E., and  the other
  with a  medium T.E., both had almost no sparkles. Let me  detail the
  test results and my comments.

  A 6  hour  brew  at 90 Volts dropping to  24.5  volts  and  3.24 ma.
  Conductance = 27.5 uS/cc; pH = 5.04; Ag+ = 14.5; T.E. very weak with
  very few sparkles, and no taste. sound great doesn't it? I could not
  read the  NO3 as something in the brew caused a turbidity  to appear
  in the  sample.  The  NO = 1.44 PPM which is  greater  than  the FDA
  allowance of 1 PPM.

  A 31  hour  brew  at  90  Volts dropping  to  5  volt  and  5.65 ma.
  Conductance = 139 uS/cc !!! ; pH = 5.34; Ag+ = 52.8 PPM; Medium T.E.
  with very  few sparkles, but with an after taste. WOW 52.8  ppm, BUT
  note the  NO3 = 5 PPM and the NO = 4 PPM and both  show  a turbidity
  during these tests.

  Before you  screw  around  with voltages over  about  37  volts, get
  someone to  check  these  two   items   for  you,  as  they  are not
  desireable. No wonder the medical profession has problems  with home
  made cs !!!!!

  I would only use this material externally.

  I guess  I am "soon old and late smart" as I have  not  tested other
  people's CS  made with high voltages, but something triggered  me to
  run these  tests, which I normally do not do for LVDC,  but  this is
  not LVDC!!!

  "Ole Bob"

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  It sounds  like  the generator has a series resistor,  but  it's not
  apparent what value is. The above numbers looked a bit strange, so I
  tried to calculate it.

  The first  run  of  6  hrs produced  24.5V  and  3.24mA.  The series
  resistance calculates to:

  R = E / I
    = (90 - 24.5) / 3.24e-3
    = 20,216 ohms

  The second  run of 31 hrs gave 5V and 5.65mA. The  series resistance
  calculates to:

  R = E / I
    = (90 - 5) / 5.65e-3
    = 15,044 ohms

  The value of the series resistance should not change  with different
  current levels.  So  there's something funny going on,  but  I don't
  think it affects the readings you took.

  Best Regards,

  Mike Monett

  P.S. A  small off-topic question - how many times can you  add "Re:"
  to a thread before the server crashes?


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