Hello everybody who has an interest in lowering blood sugar count with vanadium 
suppliments. 

After reading all the provided information, some pro-some con, and getting even 
more confused than when I started this discourse, I have turned to my local 
Guru of suppliments.

I was given this information sheet and was advised to use "Vanadyl Sulfate" 1 
cap = 5000mcg at 1 cap per day. My Guru was reluctant to give advice about the 
use of this product, and asked what my medical advisor had to say about it.... 
I didn't tell her that my advisor was the forum on the web. (and mamapug:-)

I assume that her concern was that if I were taking insulin, this product would 
necessitate a reduction in the daily injection amount of insulin as the blood 
sugar level starts to decline. Something to be watched carefully.

So I gave my wife instructions: 
take a blood reading every morning, write the level down, take one capsul of 
Vanadyl Sulfate.

Her BS level was 357 this morning. If your interested, I'll post it every day 
as things go on.

John.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham Telfer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:28 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Re:CS and Diabetes ( John Wallis)


  John

   I hope your into reading semi technical stuff.


  VANADIUM
  Rough file:
  "When Dr. John McNeill, dean of pharmaceutical sciences at UBC, and his 
colleagues Clayton Heilinger and Arun Tahiliani were testing vanadium - a 
common trace element found in seaweed - on diabetes induced female rats to see 
if it would prevent the development of cardiac problems, they made a startling 
discovery. Vanadium not only improved the rats' cardiovascular performance, it 
also regulated the levels of glucose in their blood and prevented the formation 
of cataracts. In fact, the rats that were fed vanadium in their drinking water 
appeared normal in all respects. ... Adds McNeill: 'The fact that vanadium 
appears to fix the whole system is a very nice discovery. It was not something 
we originally intended to look for.'
  On average, an adult consumes one to four milligrams of vanadium every day 
from such foods as meat, milk, vegetables and bread: fish and marine plants are 
particularly good sources. The biological importance of vanadium, however, is 
largely unknown. A natural part of the regulatory system, it is believed to 
prevent cholesterol formation both in blood vessels and in the central nervous 
system. ... However, says McNeill, 'we never thought vanadium would do it 
[mimic insulin] so well. From everything we looked at, the rats were completely 
normal."
  A two-factor, two-by-three factorially arranged experiment was performed to 
ascertain whether iodine affects the response of rats to vanadium deprivation. 
Male weanling Wistar-Kyoto rats were fed a 16% casein 68% acid-washed ground 
corn diet for 8 weeks. The variables were supplemental vanadium at 0 or 1 
microgram/g and supplemental iodine at 0, 0.33 or 25 micrograms/g. Vanadium 
deprivation increased thyroid weight and thyroid weight/body weight ratio and 
decreased the concentration of vanadium in liver. Vanadium and iodine 
interacted such that, as dietary iodine was increased, plasma glucose increased 
in the vanadium-deficient rats but decreased in the vanadium-supplemented rats. 
Also, as dietary iodine was increased, thyroid peroxidase activity decreased; 
the decrease was more marked in the vanadium-supplemented than the 
vanadium-deprived rats. The findings suggest that vanadium may have a 
physiological role affecting iodine metabolism and thyroid function.vanadium 
and iodine interaction effects on thyroid.doc
  The following study shows that vanadium supplementation can increase bone 
mineral levels and that there is an interaction between vanadium and vitamin C 
in cholesterol metabolism.
        Magnes Trace Elem 1991-92;10(5-6):327-38  

  Vanadium and ascorbate effects on 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A 
reductase, cholesterol and tissue minerals in guinea pigs fed low-chromium 
diets.

  Seaborn CD, Mitchell ED, Stoecker BJ

  Department of Nutritional Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater.

  Vanadium has been reported to affect numerous physiological processes; 
however, a demonstration that vanadium deficiency consistently impairs 
biological function is lacking. The purpose of this study was to determine if 
the activity of hepatic 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl coenzyme A (HMG CoA) 
reductase, the rate-limiting enzyme in cholesterol synthesis, is affected by 
dietary supplementation of vanadate and/or chronic ascorbic acid deficiency. To 
determine if vanadium and/or ascorbic acid affected mineral metabolism, tissue 
minerals also were analyzed. Weanling male guinea pigs were assigned randomly 
to groups of 10 in a 2 x 2 factorial design. The dietary variables were 
ascorbate, 0.5 or 10 mg/day, and vanadium < 0.01 microgram or 0.5 microgram/g 
diet as NH4VO3 in a low Cr diet containing < 0.07 microgram Cr/g diet. After 21 
weeks on this diet, guinea pigs receiving more ascorbate had lower liver 
weight/body weight ratios and increased bone copper. Testes weight/body weight 
ratios, hepatic glycogen and bone copper decreased while hepatic lipids, fecal 
bile acids, plasma cortisol and bone calcium and magnesium were increased by 
vanadium supplementation. An interaction between vanadium and ascorbate 
affected cholesterol excretion in feces, hepatic iron, plasma cholesterol 
concentration and the activity of HMG CoA reductase. This study provides 
evidence of increased bone mineral concentrations with vanadium supplementation 
and of an interaction between vanadium and ascorbate which affected cholesterol 
metabolism. 


  Regards

   Graham




  At 02:36 PM 4/25/03 -0500, you wrote:

    Catherine,

    Thank you for the URL. I looked and read the whole item and still would be
    reluctant to use the Vanadium to control my blood sugar level. It's just to
    dangerous. (as documented by these items) I am a regular user of CS and
    would be happy to expound on my personal experiences with it. But, I need
    more certification that Vanadium would be safe to use.

    I hope you do well with your Sars work. Be careful and stay healthy.

    John.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "C Creel" <[email protected]>
    To: <[email protected]>
    Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 8:39 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>Re:CS and Diabetes


    > Dear John,
    >
    >
    >   I think this is a well-balanced presentation on Vanadium.
    >
    > http://www.diabetesnet.com/vanad.php
    >
    > Regards,
    > Catherine
    >
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