> CS>130V CS Generator  > From: Dan Nave
  > Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:51

  > From Mike Monett's circuit and description at:

  >   http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/130vdc.htm

  > A couple more questions Mike.

  > Do you have any recommended electrode spacing?

  Hi Dan,

  I don't think it is too critical. I use about 1 1/4" spacing,  but I
  have seen wide variations posted in the archives.

  > What was  the electrode spacing, electrode length,  and  amount of
  > distilled water in the example in your write-up which  appeared to
  > take about 30 minutes to make the CS?

  I'm sorry  if  I  gave the impression of a  30-minute  brew  time. I
  actually wanted to show the insensitivity of the resistive method to
  normal process variations, such as the formation of hydrogen bubbles
  that reduce the electrode surface area.

  I have  rewritten the paper to hopefully explain this  more clearly,
  and also  added an electrostatic drain to the schematic.  I included
  more information  on  monitoring the performance of  the  circuit by
  noting the  time delay between turning power off and  the  neon bulb
  going out.  So it might be worth reviewing the paper to see  what is
  new.

  To answer your question, the electrode spacing is about 1  1/4", the
  wire is  12 ga with a wetted length of 3.85", the current  is 1.4mA,
  and the water volume is 8 oz. For single rods, this gives  a current
  density of 3.85 * 0.25 * 1.4 = 1.33 mA/sq. inch

  I have been experimenting with asymmetrical current density,  and am
  now using  two  rods for the anode and a 17" length of  12  ga. wire
  formed into a "W" for the cathode.

  The operating  current is the same, but the current  density  at the
  anode is about 0.66mA sq. inch, and the cathode density is less than
  half of that, or about 0.30 mA sq. inch.

  The increased  surface  area causes a significant  reduction  in the
  initial voltage across the rods. It dropped from about 80V  to about
  30V, with a corresponding reduction in the final voltage at  the end
  of the run.

  The resistive  method definitely improves the run time.  I generally
  brew for 45 minutes to 1 1/2 hr, but I find the longer runs  tend to
  turn yellow or gold after a day or so.

  I don't measure the resulting ppm, but instead I rely  on subjective
  impressions of  the biological activity. For example, a  cut usually
  heals in one day when covered with a bandage soaked in cs. A scrape,
  where the  skin  is  removed, may take two  or  three  days  to heal
  without leaving  a  scar.  It doesn't seem to  matter  much  how the
  silver is prepared or what the strength is.

  However, I  find  a  great difference in  the  tooth  test. Stirring
  allows me to use longer runs before they turn yellow, but I have not
  seen a corresponding improvement in pain reduction with a cavity.

  The unstirred  silver  may stop the pain for several  days.  But the
  three stirring methods I tried would only stop the pain  for several
  hours. A friend reports the same result with her tooth cavity.

  So, I have gone back to 1 hr runs without using stirring.

  > Thanks,

  > Dan

  Thanks for the comments!

Best Regards, 

Mike Monett


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