Bravo!  Bravo!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "M. G. Devour" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 1:17 AM
Subject: CS>Rudeness -- List Owner, please read...


> Dear Silver List members,
> 
> There are a handful of individuals who have been behaving rudely to 
> other members of the list.
> 
> Typical of this rude behavior has been the response to Jay's series of 
> questions about various kinds of water.
> 
> Let me say that it's within the realm of reason that you *might* feel
> exasperated by his questions. Over the course of a day or so, he
> posted something like four questions about the suitability of various
> kinds of water, to which the consensus reply was, "Jay, use only
> distilled water!"
> 
> You might consider that he may have posted all of those questions 
> before he saw more than the first couple of replies... so maybe he 
> wasn't asking questions he'd already seen answered.
> 
> In any case, a number of people did offer respectful answers to his
> questions. A few of you succeeded in urging him toward some obvious
> answers he missed, while doing so in a reasonable manner.
> 
> Thanks to you folks! That's what the list is for.
> 
> Some other comments were made that were rude and wrong:
> 
> His questions are "ignorant/stupid" and he is "a basket case" who is 
> only trolling for attention...
> 
> "...and stop the nonsense that you are putting on this list."
> 
> "...Jay if you are intent on producing crap..."
> 
> "... you remind me of my youth when I went out with a blond that no
> mater (sic) what you told her it just wouldn't sink in..."
> 
> Folks, I seem to remember making some CS that looked a lot like watered 
> down milk... back in the bad old days when we used salt for a starter. 
> Sorta like making CS in some high mineral content "drinking water" 
> that's being sold as distilled. Like a couple of grocery store brands 
> I've bought recently when they were out of the stuff I know works.
> 
> Did you consider that before you wrote Jay off as a crank?
> 
> And, you'll notice, a few of you offered good quality comments on the
> difficulties of achieving reasonable purity from rain water. Gee, that
> was useful, considering that such advice is found any number of places
> on the web!
> 
> The following is an example of good advice delivered well...
> 
> > Jean,
> >
> > Feel comfortable with what you're doing. You are reacting to people
> > that want to take a process to the "n"th degree, no need for meters
> > etc. unless you need a science project. I've used grocery store
> > distilled water for 5 years with never a bad batch. Worry more about
> > soap residue from cleaning the brewing container...
> >
> >        Chuck
> 
> Yes, Jean might still want a meter of one sort or another. Yes, I just
> got through noting above the problems I've had with some "grocery
> store distilled water." But those are things that can be dealt with as
> they arise. What Chuck does *right* is to give reassurance and
> encouragment.
> 
> What *cannot* be seen is the fear that will stop new people and
> lurkers from asking questions because they fear *you* will call them
> stupid, ignorant, or a troll, and their questions "nonsense."
> 
> If you cannot answer without venting your frustration or exasperation, 
> then remain silent.
> 
> If you would like to accuse somebody of being a troll, talk to me in
> private e-mail. You may not make public accusations on this list.
> 
> If you cannot frame your answers in language that is respectful and 
> affirming, then do not answer.
> 
> If you choose to be rude, you are forgetting the purpose of this list. 
> If so, you will go away. You are not welcome here.
> 
> Mike Devour
> silver-list owner
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [[email protected]                        ]
> [Speaking only for myself...               ]
> 
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