The reason most people say use the green thing is simply tradition that won't go away...just like using salt. That's right, there are still people out there that include some sea salt with a generator.
 Not everyone who sells em has a clue.
Worse than that, not many people who make em have a clue either. They just pick up some old tome from 20 years ago and go to work.

..it's getting better.
A least you don't often see a photo of downright sludge being touted as the best there is any more. You do hear how to make it deep yellow gold on purpose though. After all, they read in that old tome that that's what it's supposed to look like so if it doesn't say exactly how to make gold they'll go out of their way to discover how.
 How many times have you read that you should use boiling water?

...or spring water [like spring water could be the least bit consistant]

Ode

At 10:40 AM 6/12/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Ruth,

Thats O.K., I just read a post to me from Ode saying that scrubbing the wires is a bad thing, by removing all the dark buildup you remove silver that you could otherwise use and that a rough pitted electrode has more surface area and lowers current density providing a surface for any deposits to stick to better so they don't wind up in the water, So it works better if it's not smooth. You might already know this but I figure I'll pass it on anyway just in case, if cleaning is necessary you should put the wires in hydrogen peroxide for a few minutes any longer and they will turn black again, then rinse with DW.

However I am still curious as to what your instructions say, in the light of this news it makes one wonder about ulterior motives.

Thank you for all your help.

Stay healthy,
Jean


Ruth Bertella <[email protected]> wrote:
hey Jean

rut roh... I forgot to bring my inststructions with me today, but I just left a message for myself on my answering machine, so I'll have the instructions tomorrow for sure.

Sowwy......     Ruth

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Ruth Bertella
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Proper jar cleaning

Hiya Jean -

I will try to remember to bring my instructions into work with me tomorrow. It makes sense though, that different units would have different care instructions. As for cleaning the jars with only CS and a bottle brush, that was my own idea. Since CS kills germs it made sense to me that it should clean my jars as well as anything else. In addition, I have had no problems whatsoever when brewing up any size batches, they are all crystal clear - I prefer using the pint jars simply for the time savings per batch.

I'll let you know tomorrow after I get into work.

Sincerely....     Ruth


----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Jean DeMasters
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Proper jar cleaning

My package actually included the scouring pad. I wonder if that will break down the silver wires faster, and if so is that the intention so as to sell more wire quicker. Maybe I'm being too skeptical, it just seems that there is soooo many ways to brew, clean, store, make CS stronger or weaker that it makes my head spin and unsure of the methods I'm using.

Please keep me posted as to what your instructions say about cleaning, if you don't mind.

Thanx,
Jean

Ruth Bertella <[email protected]> wrote:
Hiya Jean -

Hmmmm.... maybe I need to re-read my instructions when I get home from work tonight!! But if I recall correctly, I was only supposed to gently wipe the rods between each use with a coffee filter or unbleached paper towel.

I don't scrub the rods with anything or try to make them "shine" as when they were new. They are a "matte" silver color now and I've made about 4 gallons in 2 weeks if that matters) I get VERY LITTLE gray matter off the rods each time I do wipe them. Also, there is slightly more gray on one rod than the other each time. I was told to rotate the rods between each batch as well so they would wear uniformally.

Hope this helps....    Ruth
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Jean DeMasters
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Proper jar cleaning

Hi Ruth,

I usually pour all of the brewed batch into my storage vessel because I brew so little at a time (8oz) as per the instructions that came with the generator, the instructions also said that I should use a scouring pad after each brewing cycle to clean off the dark buildup on the rods. Does only using a coffee filter clean off all the dark buildup?
Ruth Bertella <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Jean -

For what it's worth, I don't clean my jars when I am brewing up one batch after another (there's no build up of any kind so I don't see the need to). When I'm through for the night, I turn my jar upside down on a white paper towel to dry. I only wash the jar when I see a very slight film on it or maybe every couple days just to be sure. I leave an inch or so of the CS in the jar and use a bottle brush I have dedicated to only cleaning up my CS jars/utensils/etc. (I use CS as the cleaner since soap has gotten a somewhat bad rap in here). After cleaning, I rinse the jar in distilled water and drain the jar on a white paper towel. I clean the rods by gently wiping them off with a coffee filter.

Hope this Helps.....     Ruth

----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Jean DeMasters
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Proper jar cleaning

Thanx for the feedback I'll give both a try to see what works best for me, however I don't have a drill so what should I be using or not using as a cleaning agent.

Jean

Jack Dayton <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
Medwith, Robert6/11/03 5:30 AM

I wrote on this once before.
Look around in the dollar stores for plastic handled toilet (ROUND) brushes
that at some point narrow down
to 1/2  cut here and now it will fit in a 1/2 chuck Drill Motor.
This set up with a little water makes it a lot easier to clean jars.

I use this set up to clean 1 gallon jars it works on quart jars also.
**************************

Hi Bob,

Why wouldn't you use a "Bottle Brush" instead,
it would probably be less expensive?
Cleaning the interior of containers is what they
were designed to do. You can find one at most
supermarkets.

Jack
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