Hi Mike, Thanks for this reply, I did try to find a biography of Bob which was not just another clone. I feel he had an important part in modern alt.health, but perhaps his most important potential contribution may never be fully disclosed, if his brain tuner work is as described.
Must say it was fun to read those old posts again, some of what I said then I still hold as true today which is good =) My commercial CS maker uses low current and takes over two days to make a batch, please post a link to your work. I have commented on one of the posts you supplied, not a complete answer, but I can fill in any specific gaps as required, if I am able. Nice to chat to you again Mike, Ivan. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Monett [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, 14 July 2003 9:16 p.m. > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: CS>Re: Bob Beck interview > > > url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61145.html > RE: CS>Re: Bob Beck interview > From: Ivan Anderson > Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 05:33:01 > > > You could be correct, but regarding the strobe flash, > there are > > 170 odd patents in the electronic flash > classification of which > > only 55 are searchable by text. It is my > understanding that his > > patent was an adaptation of the original with > regard to > > portability or camera mounting or some such. > > >Regards > >Ivan. > > Hi Ivan, > > Very nice to see your posts again! Yes, you have > to have a > subscription to Delphion to search the patent database > before 1971. > > However, there are a lot of myths surrounding Dr. Bob > Beck. One is > that he made millions on his strobe flash patent. Another > site has a > biography, which states he sold it for $500: > > As a photographer, he applied his talents to > developing an > electronic flash for his camera. "I learned to blow > glass and I > bought a container of xenon for $70. It was too > valuable to leave > at Wilcox Photo Sales where I was doing the work, so > I took it > home with me. Mother said, `What's that?' I said xenon. > `What did > it cost?' I said $70. She exploded. `You paid $70 for > that empty > glass thing!' When she looked at that she saw nothing. > The gas was > invisible. When I looked at it I saw the future of > photography." > Bob sold the patent his low voltage flashcube to Ed > Wilcox for > $500. > > "That was the most money I'd ever seen in my life, > paid for my > last semester at USC When the Olympics were held > here in Los > Angeles and the coliseum was full of people, > the announcer > suggested that they turn out the lights in the stadium > and people > flash to signify they'd had a good time. I was > sitting in my > bedroom looking at the television and here were these > what looked > like hundreds of thousands of flashbulbs. Tears came > to my eyes > because I realized that all of those things were my > grandchildren > and it wasn't just one or two units or a dozen at > Life magazine > that I built with my own hands, it was the whole > world using my > grandchildren." > > http://sharinghealth.com/researchers/beck.html > > So, assuming he is blowing glass, he is trying to > make a flash > strobe like Dr. Edgerton's. However, Krypton is > normally used for > very high speed flashes, and is unsuitable by itself > for color > photography. Other gasses such as Xenon are needed to > obtain the > proper color balance: > > http://photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa040201d.htm > > This takes very expensive equipment to adjust the > mixture and keep > it correct. So it doesn't look like something you could > make on a > kitchen table at home. > > In addition, I think the general school policy around > that time was > for students to assign any patent rights to the > University. It > certainly was true when I was at MIT in the late 60's. > I had to > assign my first patent to MIT, and I still have the > dollar they gave > me in return: > > http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/patents/3674930.htm > > So I don't know how much truth there may be in > some of these > stories. > > But I think the important point is Dr. Beck was one of > the early > adopters of colloidal silver. > > I wrote Mark Metcalf and asked him where he got the > idea for the > three nines. He replied that he always credited Dr. > Beck for the > discovery in his articles. Also, Dr. Beck was mentioned > very early > in the list archives. > > So Dr. Beck's place in the history of cs is assured, > regardless of > some of the myths that may surround his early career. > > Anyway, it's great to see your posts again. I don't > know if you > remember me - I was the one with a lot of questions that > you gently > answered long ago: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m17180.html > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m17312.html > > Now, after searching the archives and learning as much > as I can > about the subject, I have come up with a theory on the > process of > making cs. If you have time, I would really > appreciate if you > could take a look and let me know what you think: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61188.html > > There is an additional post that may be relevant: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61190.html > > I also have some other information on making cs with > low current > that may interest you, but I'll wait to see if you have time. > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. 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