Weng:

I would not recommend combining DMSO and bentonite for topical application.
DMSO reacts with bentonite, and I do not, at this point, know the exact
reaction, but it is possible that the aluminum silicate bond may be broken,
which may result in depositing metallic and/or ionic aluminum directly into
the body.

Furthermore, except on rare circumstances, bentonite never actually enters
the bloodstream.  The rare circumstances account for a very minute amount of
the smallest possible clay particles entering the blood stream.  The effect
is beneficial, but an over-abundance of clay particles in the blood is
likely to result in extremely negative consequences; possibly the
destruction of red blood cells.

Barring further research, there are too many unknowns to truly predict a
positive experience.  It is likely that any risk associated with use is
negligible; I myself have experimented with the DMSO clay combination.
Extreme circumstances may provide reason for such experimentation,
however...  Such as conditions like "jungle rot" and other non-responsive
and illusive skin conditions ( of course, DMSO would have to be used very
carefully as well ).  In such a situation, I certainly wouldn't neglect to
include CS in the mixture.

Thanks for the comments!

Best Regards,

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "WengChew Leong" <k...@e-access.com.au>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: CS>Burn treatment with bentonite and CS ...


> Dear Eaton,
> Thanks for the great info on clay.
>
> I have read an article on DMSO and Vitamin B12 in www.mercola.com that
> says that
> DMSO is absorbed directly through the skin and it will carry with it any
>
> impurities(good and bad) dissolved in it. Hence, I am wondering if you
> have assessed the
> effectiveness of Bentonite mixed with DMSO.
>
> Anyway, the author of the article says that he started to feel a sense
> of general strength
> and well being after an hour of this application of DMSO and B12. This
> is faster than taking
> oral or sublingual tablets.
>
>
> Regards,
> Weng
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Eaton [mailto:ey...@cox.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 31 July, 2003 1:48 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Burn treatment with bentonite and CS ...
>
>
> Mike:
>
> Thanks for the report!  My experience matches your description exactly.
> Over the last year, we've come along way in complicating -- I mean
> contemplating -- reasons for the effectiveness of clay applications,
> from a scientific point of view.  All known possible resources have now
> been exhausted.
>
> One of the Arizona Universities failed to uncover the mysteries of clay
> with a few well-intentioned but unsuccessful analytical studies.  They
> quickly ran out of ideas and time, and thus gave up.  World-renown and
> nobel prize winning Professor Alexander Graham Cairns-Smith was
> consulted -- by Thierry Brunet -- who showed brief interest, non-belief,
> and had no real -- even whimsical or hypothetical -- explanation to
> offer.  In fact, Thierry has travelled the world and met with every
> known expert on healing clays he could locate.  We now, by far, have the
> largest collection of knowledge and information ever assembled regarding
> the subject ( besides anecdotal experience by users, of course )...
> Some of France's prominent and gifted "spiritual" healers have examined
> clay, expressing amazement at the powerful "healing energy" the clay
> possesses. Initial Kirlian photography done by extremely knowledgable
> homeopaths in France has demonstrated that clay applied locally is an
> extraordinary stimulating force, and that clay ingested effects the
> body's metabolism within a few short minutes of ingestion... with an
> unexplainable reach far beyond the digestive system ( as we know, since
> ingesting clay initially can -- but won't always -- cause a slight
> increase in blood pressure, as an example ).
>
> We've collectively turned down an offer to present data at a United
> Nations WHO meeting, as the results of the last meeting ( which I did
> not attend ), while generating great interest via overwhelming evidence
> presented, there was also a great deal of skepticism, including
> half-hearted accusations of doctoring photos.  Beyond the interest, none
> of the needed support was acquired as a result...  It seems pointless
> to... continue the same thing expecting different results.
> Incidentally, I have some of the most amazing images one would ever see
> regarding the sheer power of healing clay...  But, these images cannot
> be released in any form publically, and one must have a stomach of solid
> steel to view them...  As this was a case of an infection where
> treatment had no chance of being successful ( too late ), but the
> individual elected to do the therapy ( there would have been no other
> hope anywhere ) because miracles can happen.  In this case, the
> individual eventually required amputation of a hand/forearm ( which
> would have been the first action if the clay therapy was not done ), but
> the knowledge and insight gained from the treatment was nearly
> unfathomable -- to those with experience with the nature of infections
> and tissue degeneration.  Email me privately if you wish to see them.
>
> Anyway, I was hoping that the further research would begin to unveil the
> mysteries of clay healing from a scientific viewpoint.  Sadly, it has
> done exactly the opposite!
>
> Antibacterial Time kill studies demonstrated that Illite, which is
> another class of green healing clay ( a mica, illuminosilicate ),
> actually promoted the growth of bacteria in vitro.  Bentonite and
> Montmorillonite ( smectite, illuminosilicates ) have proven
> antibacterial capabilities.  Our one research experiment done with
> natural bentonite shows that the bentonite silver mixture is effective
> against gram positive bacteria ( which the clay responds very slow to ),
> with about a 15% reduction in efficacy of the silver.  This is
> significant, as one can harness the benefits of the clay without
> sacrificing too much of the "silver power"... Very few substances are
> truly compatible with silver for medicinal applications.
>
> Now, the Illite is much more powerful than montmorillonite in certain
> circumstances, such as the Buruli Ulcerations.  It is a very powerful
> healing clay, and presents more mysteries than it solves.  It is far
> less effective in other situations, such as baths, where the ion
> exchange capability of the smectites, and the way the charge layers
> form, provides a far greater ( dare I say catalyst? ) reaction.
>
> We finally got our hands on some natural French illite for testing
> purposes, and we immediately began to "pit it against" our own natural
> desert bentonite -- with great relish.  The illite is... exotic.  I
> don't have the numbers in front of me, but the average particle size is
> minute compared to even the finest bentonites.  It has been hypothesized
> that the illite particles are small enough to penetrate the skin
> barrier, and that this may be what is rendering the clay effective
> against the buruli ulcers.  I have argued against this point for many
> reasons, mostly based on extensive experience with deep-tissue issues
> and bentonite.  It has always been hypothesized that it is the ion
> exchange capacity that provides the "healing power" of the smectites,
> which I have also argued against, based on tests I've performed with
> high-sodium bentonites and lower sodium bentonites ( mainly regarding
> clay poultices, and not baths ).  I demonstrated by experimentation over
> a three week period of time that clay baths had no effect on a skin
> cancer, and that a single clay poultice did.
>
> Anyway, the natural illite has thusfar outperformed our desert clay when
> applied to minor skin conditions/infections and skin irritations... by a
> relatively wide margin.  However, the illite does not have the same
> pain-relieving effect that the bentonite has, and it does not seem to
> have the reach -- inside the body -- as the natural bentonite has. It is
> fantastic internally, and shares many of the properties we are used to
> seeing, with no explanation as to why ( illite is a non-swelling clay ).
>
> Of interest:
>
> http://www.eytonsearth.org/mercurytoxicity.html
>
> The lab results have been confirmed in this near-lethal case of mercury
> poisoning.  Illite used internally in conjunction with montmorillonite
> clay baths removed the mercury from the body, bringing down the total
> mercury content well within safety limits, while not touching the
> platinum levels... I wish we could have seen a full analysis done
> comparing other substances.
>
> Furthermore:
>
> http://www.eytonsearth.org/bentonite-psyllium-colloid.html
>
> We've added a new page on utilizing Psyllium with Bentonite for internal
> cleansing.  This is the first new page of about 15 I have to add, as
> time provides.
>
> We aren't any closer to really identifying what brands/types of
> bentonite are best -- and why.  We are relatively certain that the FDA
> grade clays are the least desireable, and that high sodium bentonites
> may be excellent for bath treatments, but not nearly as effective for
> topical applications and clay poultices.  The two sodium bentonites that
> we've tested which were not very effective?  One could actually taste
> the salt.
>
> Our last clay application of note was with a strange and unknown
> irritation/growth present on the side of the  "knuckle" of a little toe
> ( beneath the skin ).  The irritation was to the point that it was
> difficult for the individual to wear a shoe on the foot, and the
> condition had been progressively getting worse for about nine months.
> The individual did not seek medical attention.  Clay application, done
> over a three day period, over night, at first appeared to be
> inneffective.  Redness was removed, but the size of the growth remained
> the same.  The clay use was halted. However, over the next two months,
> the irritation subsided, and the growth actually began to move torward
> the very tip of the toe, to the point where it is obviously now dead
> tissue that exists almost exactly as a callus would appear, with no
> associated pain.  It appears as if the body is simply going to eliminate
> it.  I've never seen such a growth actually move nearly 1/2 inch that
> was so close to the skin's surface.  The lymphatic system is amazing.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jason R. Eaton
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "M. G. Devour" <mdev...@eskimo.com>
> To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:03 PM
> Subject: CS>Burn treatment with bentonite and CS ...
>
>
> > I want to report this for anybody who might be interested...
> >
> > Over the last year or two I have learned about some of the medicinal
> > uses of clay from Jason's messages here. This week we had a chance to
> > put that learning into practice once again.
> >
> > Rosie was helping with dinner prep and was scraping the insides of a
> > cooked spaghetti squash out of its skin. A sizable "blop" of squash
> > innards landed on the inside of her wrist, causing an extremely
> > painful burn.
> >
> > She put it on ice while we sat down to dinner. Afterwards she asked me
>
> > to put some clay on it.
> >
> > I had had a mason jar with some hydrated clay in it, but it had dried
> > out a little bit. Even still, it sprang back after adding a few drops
> > of water and stirring lightly. I spread a nice thick layer over the
> > burned area, which was red and still hurting a lot, but had not yet
> > blistered. She wrapped it in gauze and kept that moist by spritzing on
>
> > some CS.
> >
> > After a few hours she pulled off the compress and re-dressed the
> > injury with more CS moistened gauze. (No clay at this point.)
> >
> > Already, the pain was nearly gone and there was only a very *small*
> > area with a couple of blisters at one edge of the wound that I didn't
> > get as much clay on as the rest. The rest of the area was slightly
> > tender, but not painful at all.
> >
> > The next day she dispensed with any dressings at all, as they weren't
> > necessary.
> >
> > We're talking about a burn that would have been a couple square inches
>
> > of blister if it had not been treated promptly and well. The fact that
>
> > only the small area that blistered had not received an adequately
> > thick application of clay gives us a bit of a basis for comparison.
> >
> > Now, a few days later, the rest of it is quite far along in healing,
> > and only the small area that blistered is behaving as you'd normally
> > expect of such a burn.
> >
> > Thanks Jason! It's good to have this treatment protocol in our bag of
> > tricks.
> >
> > Be well,
> >
> > Mike D.
> >
> >
> >
> > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> > [mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
> > [Speaking only for myself...               ]
> >
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