"Regarding stirring, the Colloid Master (R) employs a bi-directional
current pattern to the electrodes.
  The Colloid Master does produce a constant current, that is also
modulated." [ie: bi-directional]

Polarity switching?  Duration of pulses in order for any stirring effect to
be present is important according to Ole Bob who used to make and sell such
devices.  Well, Vince isn't a complete ignoramous. Although he hasn't seen
fit to make the info available on the website, It's probably been considered.
 I don't see how current switching would effect a vertically oriented
dispersion in the water or disrupt suspended ion tracks but it will at
least move stuff away from the electrodes..if the pulses are long enough.
 A small stream of bubbles coming from the bottom would, IMO, help out and
be a good idea.

Settle and decant?  What's that about?

 All in all, I think this is a pretty good generator.  I see that the price
has dropped by about $40 too...down from the permanent 'sale' price.
 I have always considered the 777 to be amongst the top 3

http://silverpuppy.com/links.html

http://www.wishgranted.com/index.html
A very informative site. Good generator for $159 'on special'

3/18/2000 Wishgranted has a new model 777 on special for $144. A very good
generator from most accounts. The probes are only 30 gauge or .012 inches
[.5" x 6", compared to 12 gauge x 3.5" wire at .081"] It's probably about
the same amount of silver. Wishgranted says that flat ribbon has more
surface area and works better. But, Flat ribbon has more sharp edge for
less uniform electrical discharge whereas wire tends to discharge more ions
at the tips [wires only sharp edge]. The only 'real' disadvantages I see to
using thin flat ribbon is that it's very delicate, easy to mangle,
difficult to make interchangeable or replaceable, difficult to clean
without distortion and difficult to maintain an optimal distance between
probes. [I tried that first and went with more manageable 12 gauge
wire...the biggest wire available]

Uniform or at least repeatable distance is very important to the accuracy
of voltage referenced auto off sensing and production rates. I didn't see
how they managed to keep that distance uniform. [now I do]

 

In general, I'm impressed! Great job ,Vince

PS  Trem..I see I have some updating to do on your link and I also refer to
a model I no longer make.
Ooops

Ode

At 04:31 PM 8/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
>Sue <[email protected]> wrote:
>>All right, I'm a flunky.  I bought a CS generator before I new this
>>list existed and now I'm thinking I've a loser machine.  Is anyone
>>familiar with teh Colloid Master Model 777 Universal by Synergenesis? 
>>Is this junk that I should chalk up to ignorance or is does it make
>>okay CS?
>
>I've been using a Colloid Master for several years, and I'm delighted
>with it. However, there is one thing you have to add before it will make
>optimal quality CS: some sort of stirring mechanism. I use an aquarium
>bubbler, but some regard that as an inferior stirring method, as it can
>introduce impurities. I use the bubbler because it's so simple, and I'm
>too lazy to add a more complicated stirring mechanism. I did, however,
>open up the bubbler, and I found a piece of foam filter on its air
>intake. Also, our house is made of non-toxic, non-outgassing materials,
>so I'm not particularly worried that the air I breathe on a daily basis
>is being bubbled through my CS. To make the bubbling action a bit
>gentler, I poked a pin into the air hose, making a tiny hole that bleeds
>off some of the air.
>
>You can see a couple pics of my set-up here:
>
>http://butthead.natel.net/cs/
>
>The white lid is from the half-gallon Rubbermaid container that I used
>before switching to the one-gallon suntea jar, and I simply made a
>couple knife slits two inches apart and jammed the silver electrodes in.
>There is just enough electrode sticking up through the lid to which to
>attach the aligator clips.
>
>As was mentioned in another email, this unit is pretty slow. Personally,
>I don't have a problem with that because we only need a gallon per week,
>and I always start a new batch immediately after decanting off a new
>batch. And, by decanting, I mean that I use the spigot in the suntea jar
>to draw off the middle 3/4 gallon or so after I've let the CS settle for
>a day or two. My CS is clear in color and completely stable in sunlight.
>
>-- 
>John A. Stanley                           [email protected]
>
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