Hi Dan, What I didn't mention is that we use four electrodes with about a total wetted surface area of thirty square inches. They are 1.5" X 6" each. We run thirty milliamps current.
Hope this helps you. Trem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Nave" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: CS>Submerged Pump > Thanks a lot, you guys. Good information! > > I have access to some surplus water pumps from work which have a range > around 1 gallon an minute, give or take, depending on the voltage applied. > I may use these or a bought submersable pump if I get up to a gallon maker > (or larger) setup. > > Incidently, I just made a setup consisting of a 12 ounce container, two 8 > inch "U" shaped electrodes made of 12 gage fine silver wire 99.9% purity > with a spacing of 1.25 inches, a 35 VDC approx. power supply, a 1 ma > regulated output made with a LN334 regualtor with a 68 ohm resistor, and > thermal stirring with a 7 Watt night light in a tin can, insulated. The > setup reaches current limit > right around the 15 minute mark. The Mercury program calculates the ppm for > a 2 hour run at 21.8 ppm. There is the expected grey and black coloration > on the respective electrodes, but no whiskers nor any substantial buildup on > the electrodes. The final product is clear, minimal tindal as far as I can > tell, but I don't have a laser pointer or a PWT tester yet to verify the > concentration. No "ion clouds" or whisps were visible for any of the runs. > > Starting voltage was about 33V at .46ma so resistance calculates to approx. > 78Kohms.. Voltages and resistance were taken at 15 minute intervals vary a > bit, but at the end are approx 4 or 5 VDC at 1ma and therefore 4K to > 5Kohms. > > Dan > > > CS>Submerged Pump > > From: Trem (view other messages by this author) > Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 13:58:45 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > Can I jump in here? We use 7/16 to 1/2 inch spacing on our SG7 > Pro. With the electrodes that close together the current gradient between > plates is pretty strong right at startup and we reach current limiting very > quickly. However the water has to be moving fairly rapidly or the unit > will shut down because it senses voltage drop across the electrodes to > control > the shutoff point. We use a submergible fountain pump to keep the water > moving vigorously. The idea that it takes very slow water movement to > produce good CS doesn't have any effect on our generator. It produces > particle size in the general range of .001 to .005 microns. > > So, I think closer is better if you can keep the water moving. Why > have to wait to get up to speed? > > My 2 cents. > > Regards, > > Trem Williams > [email protected] > > Re: CS>Submerged Pump > > From: Robert Berger (view other messages by this author) > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:13:11 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---- > > Hi Dan, > > I do not recommend air bubblers as I do not know how much CO2 is being > added to the > CS. Also I think that the agitation is to weak for anything larger then > about a quart > tank. > > I bought the pump at an aquarium store. It is rate 35 to 70 gal/hr with a > head of > 18". > Since I am not elevating the DW it should be running near maximum output. > > The 2 gallon aquarium is 12" long, the anode is at one end and the pump at > the other > end directed towards the cathode- anode. Its like this > PUMP---CATHODE--ANODE. Anode > to cahtode spacing is 1.8" > > Dan Nave wrote: > > > Ole Bob wrote that he used a submerged water pump in his 2 gallon CS > maker. > > > > Bob, what kind of flow rate does your pump have and where do you direct > the flow? > > > > For air bubblers, what kind of flow rate do you (anyone) recommend? > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
