Marshall wrote: > Has anyone done any electron microscope studies of their clusters?
An electron microscope will not be able to see the particles unless the silver ions are removed before the sample is desiccated for observation. TEM images of ionic solutions do not show the particles that were in the solution, they show the particles of silver compounds that were formed when the samples were desiccated as required for the sample preparation. In the case of a 90% ionic solution, the silver compound particles formed during sample preparation would out number the actual silver particles by several million to one, obscuring the actual particles. Here is further explanation from the FAQ on silver-colloids.com. What happens to the silver ions in solution when the water is evaporated? Silver ions in a solution cannot exist without water, so when the water is evaporated the silver ions (cations) must combine with an available anion to form a compound. The predominant anions present in a silver colloid solution are hydroxide and carbonate. The compounds thus formed are silver hydroxide and silver carbonate. Silver hydroxide is unstable and reduces to silver oxide and hydrogen. The silver carbonate will reduce to silver oxide and carbon dioxide. The final compound that remains is silver oxide. This process begins as a single silver ion is forced to combine with a single anion forming a single molecule of the compound. The molecule has no ionic charge and therefore no repulsive force. The lack of repulsion causes the molecules to be attracted to each other by van der Waals' force of attraction which causes them to aggregate and form small particles of the compound. The size of the particle growth is limited by the reduced mobility of the molecules as the water evaporates. What remains is particles of silver oxide whose diameter is 1 - 3 nanometers. It is these particles which predominate in TEM images made of silver colloid solutions which have a high ionic content. frank key ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CS>A Good Read > But the kicker is that their product kills spores in under 3 minutes according > to tests. Normal CS will not touch spores. They claim that they use a process > that takes hours to convert the normal HVAC CS to a different form that is much > more effective. > > Has anyone done any electron microscope studies of their clusters? > > Marshall > > Jason Eaton wrote: > > > Greetings, all: > > > > >From what I know about ASAP silver, I would definately concur with Frank's > > exposition. > > > > Antibacterial time kill studies have demonstrated that ASAP silver is an > > effective silver, but certainly not the best ionic silver on the market. I > > do, however, like the folks at ASAP, because they do alot of R&D which, in > > an indirect manner, helps us all. Point and case is the initial BYU > > studies. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Jason > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frank Key" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:26 AM > > Subject: Re: CS>A Good Read > > > > > ASAP is an HVAC produced ionic silver product not unlike what many folks > > > make at home. While their ads claim that their product is 95% silver > > > particles, it is actually around 90% ionic just like most other HVAC > > > produced ionic silver, in fact most ionic silver solutions, both AC and DC > > > produced, tend to gravitate toward 90% ionic. > > > > > > From our measurements they are able to reliably keep their concentration > > at > > > the value stated on the label. This is not as easy as one would think and > > it > > > is something many other producers of ionic silver have yet to achieve. > > They > > > also seem to have a good handle on maintaining their particle size in the > > > 10-15 nm range which is typical for properly produced HVAC solutions, > > > although many other commercially produced HVAC solution have larger > > > particles. Most DC produced solutions have particles that are much larger > > > according to our lab analysis. > > > > > > For more info on these issues see the Commercial Product Reports shown > > here: > > > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html > > > > > > > > > frank key > > > > > > > > > Hello List, > > > Clifton Mining (CFTN-OTC) and American Biotech produce a colloidal silver > > > compound that arrests the effects of malaria. > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
