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Re: CS>RE: sick from cs
From: M. G. Devour
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 05:01:46

  > Norma writes:

  >> One individual on the list said that they had gotten  really sick
  >> from some  bad  cs  years  back. How would  we  ever  be  able to
  >> determine it was bad?

  > I don't  know exactly what Mike M. experienced, but if  I remember
  > correctly he attributed his reaction to some contamination  on the
  > electrodes.

  > It's generally recommended that you keep your electrodes clean and
  > avoid touching  them, setting them on the kitchen counter,  and so
  > on. Don't  use  things like soap or scrubby pads  unless  they are
  > dedicated to only the one task and kept clean.

  Hi Mike,

  Your memory is very good!

  From the Shingles article on my web page:

    "Contamination"

    "I cannot  emphasize  strongly enough to protect  the  silver rods
    from contamination.  Do  not let them rest on  the  table.  Do not
    touch the  rods with your fingers - use ordinary  tissue  paper to
    wipe the black silver off."

    "Once, I somehow contaminated one rod with oil. There was  a small
    brown spot  in the bottom of the glass when I finished  making the
    silver. I thought nothing of it, but got a severe tummy ache after
    drinking the  solution. I now have a lid to cover  the  glass, and
    the rods are fixed to the lid. When filling the glass, the  lid is
    placed on  the table with the rods in the air - I  never  let them
    touch anything."

    Warning - ugly photos:

    http://www.geocities.com/mrmonett/shingles/0shin.htm#contim

  I should mention I keep my cs generator on the lab bench next  to my
  computer and  oscilloscope.  I   don't   know   how  the  rod became
  contaminated, but  having the rods loose and lying on the  bench was
  clearly a bad idea. Fixing them to the lid solved the problem.

  Mike, I'm  not sure if cleaning the electrodes with soap  is  a good
  idea, since it might leave a residue. It might not make anyone sick,
  but it might affect the cs process. Also, a scrub pad might  pick up
  contamination or bacteria over time and transfer it to the rods:

    http://users.wmin.ac.uk/~redwayk/research/kitchen98.htm

  I use  isopropyl alcohol on a small pad made  with  plain unbleached
  toilet tissue,  then discard the pad. The tissue is kept  in  a safe
  location where  it can't get contaminated. Paula just posted  a good
  description of how easy it is for this to happen:

    http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m62861.html

  Also, I  watch  the  process carefully.  If  something  doesn't look
  right, I  toss  the batch and start over. Of course, I do  a  lot of
  experiments, so this happens quite often:)

  Since we  intend  to drink the cs, we have to  be  sensitive  to the
  possibility of contamination. Following simple rules of  hygiene and
  watching how you treat the rods should eliminate any problems.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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