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CS>EIS Generation Help
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 08:32:28

  > Greetings List;

  > I ask for your help in design/building my first CS generator and I
  > was most  gratified  by  the immediate  response  of  a  couple of
  > questions, which  I  answered,   and   some  related  talk between
  > members. But  then  it just died. Did I do or  say  something that
  > offended? Or am I just too new to gage response time?

  > Regards;
  > Bruce A

  Hi Bruce,

  No, you  didn't  offend  anyone.  Your  posts  are  very  polite and
  friendly.

  I should  have  responded to your last post, but  I  started getting
  headaches again and could not help.

  From what  I recall, you may have descided to abandon  the stainless
  steel cathode and huge anode.

  Another approach  that might help get you started would  be  to make
  two electrodes shaped in a "W" that fit inside a 1/2  litre drinking
  glass.

  If you have not already bought the silver wire, 12 ga has a bit more
  area and is stiffer than 14 ga., but 14 ga would work if you already
  have it.

  The biggest problem if trying to make the cs too quickly.  I believe
  you have 35V or 40V available, which helps considerably.

  You will need to make the unit and fill it with dw, then measure the
  initial voltage  across the cell when voltage is first  applied. You
  can use  a  100k  series resistor for the  first  reading  then just
  calculate the unknown using standard voltage divider equations.

  You have to work fast. The cell resistance drops quickly as  soon as
  ions enter the solution.

  Once you  know the initial cell resistance, you can start  by making
  the series resistor the same value.

  As the  conductance  of the cell increases,  the  current  will also
  increase. But  it  will be limited by the  series  resistor  and you
  won't have  problems  with  the  exponential  runaway  that normally
  occurs with a constant voltage source.

  Let it  run  until  you   start   getting  oxide  or  sludge  on the
  electrodes. This tell when tyou have pretty much reached the maximum
  concentration of ions for your configuration.

  Measure the current at intervals, then integrate the current vs time
  curve in  WPlot to get the average. Toss that in Mercury to  see how
  much silver was liberated.

  You have  to  account for the visible deposits, and  also  the oxide
  particles that  are too small to see. This will reduce the  ppm from
  the calculated  value.  A  Hanna PWT can  be  used  to  confirm your
  measurements and calculations.

  You can improve the system by looking for good quality dw that gives
  the highest  ppm  value,  and by  changing  the  series  resistor to
  control the average current density.

  You can check the archives for more information.

  I just did something very stupid in Windows, and if I don't stop now
  I will destroy my desktop. Sorry - Bye! Good Luck!

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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