Robb Allen said:
"Green laser pointers are on the market. They are relatively expensive still, 
but coming down in price. Edmund Scientific Company recently dropped their 
price from around $350 to around $250. (This is still too expensive for me.)"

I can not resist mentioning that I sell this exact green laser pointer for $89 
on my website, www.atlasnova.com.  It is a Leadlight GLP-105 model and the best 
green pointer available.


Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
www.atlasnova.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robb Allen 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:31 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>False Tyndall effect?


  I have a laser pointer but I have stopped using it in favor of using white 
LED.  I think it shows much lighter tyndall than is possible with a 
laser..........Robb
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Matthew McCann PE 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:20 PM
    Subject: CS>False Tyndall effect?


    Hi, Ode!

    You asked, " Is there such a thing as a non
    conductive particle that's too small for visible
    light to reflect off of?"

    The answer is yes. A good example is water
    aerosol, that is to say, fog. Fog will scatter
    the shorter wavelengths in an automobile
    headlight, but will not scatter the long
    wavelengths in an amber-colored "fog" light.

    The TE that most CS users observe is
    scattered from the beam of a red laser diode
    with a wavelength in the range of
    630 to 680 nanometers (6300 to 6800 angstroms.)
    A lot of valuable information is being lost
    when other visible wavelengths are overlooked.

    Green laser pointers are on the market. They
    are relatively expensive still, but coming down
    in price. Edmund Scientific Company recently
    dropped their price from around $350 to around
    $250. (This is still too expensive for me.)

    A less expensive alternative might be
    to make do-it-yourself TE sources at a variety
    of shorter but visible wavelengths, using
    ultra-bright LEDs and flashlight reflectors.
    Here is a list of some possible LEDs sold
    by Hosfelt Electronics.

    Orange LED, 2VDC@ 60mA, $3.49, 620 nanometers.

    Yellow LED, 1.9-2.5 VDC@ 20mA,  $3.49, 590 nanometers.

    Green LED, 3.2VDC@ 20mA, $1.99, 525 nanometers.

    Blue LED, 2.5-3VDC@ 20mA, $0.99, 466 nanometers.

    Violet LED, 3.6-4VDC@ 20mA, $2.25, 420 nanometers.

    Ultraviolet LED, 3.7-4VDC@ 20mA, $2.25, 395 nanometers.

    The latter LED has some visible emission. Use it
    only if you know what you are doing! Its UV can
    damage eyes without it being apparent or 
    immediately painful.

    Best regards,

    Matthew


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