I only know about rabbits, not the true chambered stomach ruminants like cattle. In rabbits there is a large cecum where the fermentation takes place, and the contents are said to be very highly liquid, (probably the main part of bunny water intake goes into the cecum) which may be why they are so vulnerable to oral antibiotics and likely would have problems with CS as well. In the highly liquid contents of the cecum, CS could easily kill the fermentation bacteria. There are few antibiotics that are safe for rabbits orally. It isn't CS alone one has to be careful with. The penicillins for example are never administered orally to rabbits, only by injection. Rabbit gut bacteria are very delicately balanced, and giving large doses of CS as one can to a cat or dog could easily be fatal. Quickly, too. You don't have time to correct mistakes with bunnies. Probably a large part of the reason cattle and probably sheep, goats, and horses are unlikely to suffer from this as easily as rabbits is sheer size. I limit CS in my dwarf house bun's water to 1/2 tsp of 10ppm per about 14 oz water: they have access to this all day, but in their habitats overnight they get plain distilled water. Been doing this for well over a year, with no problems. In fact the reason they get this is because one little guy tends to get the urine dribbles if I stop adding the CS to the day water bowl.
paula

Marshall Dudley wrote:

I believe he is speaking of a rudiment such as a cow. These animals have an additional stomach, a fermentation pot so to speak. If the bacteria, yeasts and so forth were to be killed in that stomach, then digestion would not take place. The bacteria and so forth are necessary to break down the cellulose to more digestible forms.

The theory is that CS can kill these bacteria, and thus cause the animal to starve. The idea is not far fetched, CS will cause honeybees to starve much to my displeasure when I tested this on them. I believe I was the first to propose that this could be a problem with cattle several years ago.

That said though I must confess, other than bees, I have not heard of this being a problem. It could be because people do avoid giving large amounts of CS to such animals, or it could be that the danger is overblown. I do not know. There are a couple of possible reasons why the danger may not be as great as would be thought.

One possibility is that the majority of water drunk goes go the main stomach and not the fermentation stomach, and thus would not present a problem.

Another possibility is that the silver is not very effective in the fermentation stomach due to the consistency of the contents, similarly to how it is not effective in the normal bowels of a person.

So the bottom line is that caution on this does make sense, but as of yet I am unaware of any data to give us a good foundation to predict just how much is too much.

Marshall

[email protected] wrote:

In a message dated 4/16/04 6:09:59 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
A grass eater might starve if fed CS for long periods of time.


Ode -- could you please clarify this statement for me?  Thanks.    MA


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