i just have to butt in and say, Garnet, well done.... the trolls have provoked you to show your best thinking....
today, i neutralized an otherwise week long painful and itching lump, from my first black fly bite of the year....usually my worst... used the roll on directly, as soon as i felt the pain.... 10 minutes later...no pain, big bump, and no rash, even though it was full strength... 30 min later bump gone... i did another bite afterward with a CS/DMSO 50/50 mix and it's gone too... what a great list.....(s).... > While I have respect for double blind studies I am much more inclined to > put the most faith in my own personal experience. Generally I start > there and then look for validation in others experiences and in journal > articles. However the journal articles often lag behind the personal > experiences by many years and in some cases hundreds of years. Strictly > speaking science is observation and requires no double blind studies. If > it did we would be tossing thousands of accepted medical precepts > accumulated over centuries of observation. > > Part of the problem with viral studies is in defining dead and alive. In > rereading Goodman and Gilman's section on anti-viral agents in becomes > clear that this line is not clear when it comes to viruses. Terms used > in reference to viral affects are not "dead" or "kill", they are > "inhibit", "uncoat", intereferes with viral replication through affects > on the RNA or DNA processes and structures and similar descriptions of > activity. > > It becomes clear that the issue of virucidal as regards any anti-viral > agent is as much a matter of semantics and definition of terms as it is > of actual demonstration of effects. > > DMSO is known to uncoat viruses. It is also known to stop viral > symptoms. It would appear this is as close as anyone is going to get in > defining its action against virues. And is a widely accepted level of > knowledge from which to go forth with therapeutic applications in the > absence of toxicity. DMSO has zero toxicity in therapeutic applications > and indeed requires inhalation of vapors upon boiling to some 370* or > consumption of 40,000 times the therapeutic dose, a highly unlikely > occurence. It has one of the safest therapeutic indexes (Therapeutic > Dose divided by the Lethal Dose in 50%) of any agent out there. > > Stedman's Medical Dictionary 22nd Ed defines virucidal and viricidal as > "destructive to a virus". With this definition in mind as well as the > terminology used by the standard in Clinical Therapeutics, Goodman and > Gilman, I believe the issue of discussing DMSO's ability to kill viruses > in vivo (in the body) is hampered by the current concepts of alive or > dead formed from knowledge of other life forms. > > I would also remind those with high levels of curiosity as to the > mechansims of action of DMSO that many agents are still a mystery to us. > That does not stop use from using them for situations where we get > positive results. > > I stated that DMSO kills viruses. I stand by that statement. > > Garnet > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
