CS>Generous EIS usage
From: Matthew McCann PE
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 15:54:25
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m72553.html

  Hi Matthew,

  > Hello, Mike,

  > There may several ways to make LVDC EIS at higher concentrations:

  > One, evaporate  a  batch   at   low   temperature  (<  100 degrees
  > Fahrenheit.)

  Yes, that works very well, but it sure takes a long time:)

  > Two, remove  the ionic fraction by using a  Graham  dialyzer. What
  > remains is the particulate fraction, which does not  contribute to
  > the constraint  imposed   by   the   solubility  equation. Stricty
  > speaking, the  particulates  are not dissolved  -  they  remain in
  > suspension by thermal agitation.

  They will  separate out if the cs is frozen. I use very  low current
  density -  100uA/sq.in.  or  less, so  there  is  very  little oxide
  formation in the Nernst layers. So I get mostly ionic, which is what
  I am after. It the most effective, but I am limited to ~22ppm.

  > Third, re-brew  the  batch  after a  12-24  hour  relaxation time,
  > during which conductivity decays very noticeably.

  Yes, I have tried that also. I can push it to perhaps 28 or  30 ppm,
  but it quickly turns yellow. As you mention below, a small amount of
  H2O2 (about 70ppb) will turn it clear overnight.

  > It is  reasonable  to suppose that  during  this post-electrolytic
  > conductivity decay  transient (P.E.C.D.T.?) dissolved  silver ions
  > are plating -out on the particulates. This restores the solubility
  > of the   brew   tore-electrolysis   without   losses   entirely to
  > sedimentation, plate-out on the vessel walls, and/or  flotation of
  > silversol by  surface  tension at  the  air-liquid  interface. The
  > batch grows yellow as such brewings are repeated, but  adding H2O2
  > at the  end  can  clarify the the batch at  the  end.  Losses from
  > sedimentation should  be  strained  out  between  the electrolysis
  > stages and their following PECDT stages.

  You lost me here, but I think I get most of your drift.

  > Best regards,

  > Matthew

  All good suggestions, but I need to find out how Ken and Trem get to
  40 - 50+ ppm!

Best Wishes,

Mike Monett


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