Marshall, The KY would not be organic but would that be a problem if you didn't add DMSO. I can understand needing a thickening agent. Are the pharmaceuticals available at most drug stores? Bob Smith
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: CS>making ointment > KY jelly ingredients > > Propylene Glycol, Polyethylene Glycol, Hydroxypropyl Cellulose, Lactic > Acid > > The effectiveness can be GREATLY increased by adding some DMSO to the > gel. I would recommend as the first try using Polyethylene Glycol, DMSO > and CS. The gel version of DMSO from Neogen Corporation uses > Polyethylene Glycol as it's thickening agent, so it should all be very > compatible. > > Organic thickeners are: > > Xanthan gum > carrageenan > agar agar > gelatin > guar gum > cellulose gum > > In regards to Pharmaceutical agents for making Topical Gels-- > Methylcellulose > Hydroxypropyl Cellulose > Lipoil > Poloxamer NF > Pluronic F127 > Polyethylene Glycol > > In all cases if organic thickeners are used a preservative MUST be used > to prevent fungus growth. CS in a gel has too low a mobility to prevent > mold growth. This should not be necessary if using pharmaceutical > agents as no nutrients should be available.. > > The following is a recipe that some on the CS list are using, I don't remember > who originally posted it: > > 90 ml CS > 2 ml Xanthum Gum > 10 ml Aloe Vera concentrate (I use 1:10) > a few drops of a preservative, such as grapefruit seed extract. > sodium bicarb > Gently heat the CS till it's lukewarm (this will make the gum melt more > easily) sprinkle the gum and beat vigorously. If you don't want to > introduce air bubbles into your mixture, keep the whisk on the bottom of > > the pan. Add the AV concentrate and preservative. (I've found that after > > about three weeks the gel develops a mold of some description. This is about two > weeks longer than using just water, so the CS is doing something, just not for > very long.) Bring the mixture back to around 7 ph with sodium bicarb using > litmus paper. You can use other thickening agents such as cellulose gum, > roughly twice as much should do it. > > Marshall > > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
