Thanks Ed. I have a email into one of their distributors and am waiting for a reply. The product they sell for addition to paint to reduce VOCs is a powdered ceramic made from clay that contained the organisms. It mentions the imprint of the bacteria so I am not sure if they are saying any of the organisms survive or if it has some other mode of action. I have read else where that they do survive and that vessels made from fermented clay are suppose to have health and preservation qualities. It is a new topic for me so I am doing as much as I can to learn about its many uses.
I did ask on the EM List why they feel that their product is different from other probiotics of the same species names. Particular strains can surely be developed so I am curious if this is just a case of marketing ones proprietary product and making claims that are not verifiable or if they have found it to be truly superior. There are many strains of probiotics on the market. I have used some of the high count liquids and can attest that higher counts do make a difference when you look at yogurt vs taking the super concentrated liquid products. I tried Kombucha in the 90's when I had CFS. It made me so energetic, I thought yipeee this stuff is great. Then I realized how much caffeine Green Tea has in it! I tried making it with herbal tea and it changed the culture so I lost it. Do you make yours with Green Tea? Or have you found a way to avoid the caffeine? What else do you like about Kombucha tea. It was sure fun to make and watch it grow! I wonder if it could be dried and ground up then added to the paint to reduce odors. I may just ended up painting on days when I can open all the windows and run some fans. I think I have found a paint that has fairly low odor, Kelly Moore, at least the primer I buy from them is not too bad. Some paint has pesticides and mildewicides added. One of them is an azole and I know my husband can not take azole drugs, he turns competely red with a whole body rash. So before I actually purchase any of their paint I will check and see what it has in it in the way of azoles. Thiabendazole may not out gas, so I will have to ask them that too. I know they do not disclose pesticides because they make no claim for them, but in the past I got really sick after a rent hous was painted the day before I moved in, but I was still sick with CFS secondary to Candida then. I am much healtheir now. The low VOC paints like AFM do not have the same durability qualities as regular paint I am told. Does anyone know about this? Thanks again Ed for your generous offer. I may take you up on it. Garnet On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 16:29, Ed Kasper wrote: > Garnet, Speaking of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic Bacteria. > I have plenty of bacteria and yeasts in my Kombucha. > > L(+) Lactic acid - Usnic acid - Acetic acid - Carbonic acid - Folic Acid - > Gluconic acid - Glucuronic acid - Amino acids vitamins, Various Enzymes are > also reported as present. > > I'd be glad to send you some to experiment to reduce VOCs and hopefully > deodorize DMSO. > > Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist & Herbalist > Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Garnet [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 9:20 AM > To: Silver List > Subject: Re: CS>DMSO-DRAGON breath > > > No I don't really have any other good ideas. I don't know how they mix > it and it may be a proprietary process. If you buy it from > www.jacoblab.com it does help support their research and publishing > efforts. Dr Jacob is working on a extensive book on DMSO, some where I > read it was to be a 6 volume set. > > I have recently been reading about Effective Microorganisms, a > proprietary mixture of Lactic Acid Bacteria, Yeasts and Phototrophic > Bacteria. One use I am looking at is for adding them to pain to reduce > VOCs (paint odors). I have no idea but it is a thought that maybe it > could also deodorize DMSO? But then again maybe the DMSO would kill them > since they are bacteria and it is effective against some bacteria. > Particularly if it contained cs. > > Google "Effective Microorganisms" for more info. There is a Yahoo list > but I don't have the address. They are sold through dealers and no you > can not cultivate them, it changes them, adds other bugs etc. > > Garnet > > > > > -- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 7.0.280 / Virus Database: 264.11.1 - Release Date: 10/15/2004 > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
